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Old 03-16-2012, 05:50 PM
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Rear inner cv boot replacement

I'm in the middle of replacing my rear inner cv boot, and I'm told that there is a c-clip somewhere on the axel to remave, so that you can split the axel from the cv joint, where is this c-clip, I have all the grease wash away, but I don't see a c-clip anywhere?????
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Old 03-16-2012, 06:48 PM
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Looks like you and I are in the same boat! I am in the middle of doing mine as well. There is a snap ring that holds the bearings inside the CV joint housing...it is in a recessed groove about 1-2mm from the outside edge of the CV joint housing...you can get it out with a screwdriver. There is also a snap ring that is on the axle, underneath the ball bearing "knuckle" that is inside the ball bearing carrier...get that off, and then the cv joint is off the axle and you can put a new boot on it.

Now, that being said, I am in the process of putting mine back together, and I cannot remember which way the bearing carrier goes in the CV housing???? I am thinking the smaller diameter end towards the outside of the cv joint (towards the axle)...is this right? It seems that it allows the most range of motion that way?? Also, what is the best way to get that snap ring off the axle? I used a dead blow hammer and pounded the ball bearing "knuckle" thingie...the thing that goes inside the ball bearing cage....off the axle and the snap ring was still sitting in the groove on the axle...surely this is not the correct way to do it???? In the service manual I have, it is not real clear on the best way to get it off or to get it back on for that matter. Hopefully someone can chime in here and help us both out
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Old 03-16-2012, 07:23 PM
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Project Fire Duck: 2011 Sportsman 500 Rebuild


Page 6 of The Fire Duck thread has pictures on how to assemble the CV joint.

You can see which way the taper of the inner race faces. Also, there is a grooved ring around the cage which must face inboard. Page 7 has pictures of the outboard CV joint.

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Old 03-16-2012, 07:29 PM
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Page 6 of The Fire Duck thread has pictures on how to assemble the CV joint.

You can see which way the taper of the inner race faces. Also, there is a grooved ring around the cage which must face inboard. Page 7 has pictures of the outboard CV joint.

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thats what I needed. Thanks friend!
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Looks like you and I are in the same boat! I am in the middle of doing mine as well. There is a snap ring that holds the bearings inside the CV joint housing...it is in a recessed groove about 1-2mm from the outside edge of the CV joint housing...you can get it out with a screwdriver. There is also a snap ring that is on the axle, underneath the ball bearing "knuckle" that is inside the ball bearing carrier...get that off, and then the cv joint is off the axle and you can put a new boot on it.

Now, that being said, I am in the process of putting mine back together, and I cannot remember which way the bearing carrier goes in the CV housing???? I am thinking the smaller diameter end towards the outside of the cv joint (towards the axle)...is this right? It seems that it allows the most range of motion that way?? Also, what is the best way to get that snap ring off the axle? I used a dead blow hammer and pounded the ball bearing "knuckle" thingie...the thing that goes inside the ball bearing cage....off the axle and the snap ring was still sitting in the groove on the axle...surely this is not the correct way to do it???? In the service manual I have, it is not real clear on the best way to get it off or to get it back on for that matter. Hopefully someone can chime in here and help us both out
well I got my boot replaced, but this snap ring as mentioned above is a mystery to me, as I know where to look for it, because I found a youtube vid showing where its suppose to be, and yep according to the vid, its right where you say it is.....BUT mine doesn't have it. All I did was give my axel good couple of sharp pulls, and the axel popped out of the cv joint, leaving the cv joint in place still in the rear differental.
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Looks like you and I are in the same boat! I am in the middle of doing mine as well. There is a snap ring that holds the bearings inside the CV joint housing...it is in a recessed groove about 1-2mm from the outside edge of the CV joint housing...you can get it out with a screwdriver. There is also a snap ring that is on the axle, underneath the ball bearing "knuckle" that is inside the ball bearing carrier...get that off, and then the cv joint is off the axle and you can put a new boot on it.

Now, that being said, I am in the process of putting mine back together, and I cannot remember which way the bearing carrier goes in the CV housing???? I am thinking the smaller diameter end towards the outside of the cv joint (towards the axle)...is this right? It seems that it allows the most range of motion that way?? Also, what is the best way to get that snap ring off the axle? I used a dead blow hammer and pounded the ball bearing "knuckle" thingie...the thing that goes inside the ball bearing cage....off the axle and the snap ring was still sitting in the groove on the axle...surely this is not the correct way to do it???? In the service manual I have, it is not real clear on the best way to get it off or to get it back on for that matter. Hopefully someone can chime in here and help us both out
well I got my boot replaced, but this snap ring as mentioned above is a mystery to me, as I know where to look for it, because I found a youtube vid showing where its suppose to be, and yep according to the vid, its right where you say it is.....BUT mine doesn't have it. All I did was give my axel good couple of sharp pulls, and the axel popped out of the cv joint, leaving the cv joint in place still in the rear differental.
different rings. There is a retaining ring on the axle side of the cv joint that keeps your bearings and carrier inside the cv joint housing....when I took mine off, we did the same as you...the CV joint housing was still on the rear diff....I used a couple of large screwdrivers and popped it off the rear gearcase...there is a large snap ring there that holds the CV housing to the gearcase.

How did you get the CV joint back onto the axle? THere is a small snap ring that sits in the groove on the axle...did you just pound the joint on over it? The only way to get the boot on the axle is to take the joint off...I am just having some issues on getting the joint back onto the axle now
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Old 03-16-2012, 08:17 PM
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Looks like you and I are in the same boat! I am in the middle of doing mine as well. There is a snap ring that holds the bearings inside the CV joint housing...it is in a recessed groove about 1-2mm from the outside edge of the CV joint housing...you can get it out with a screwdriver. There is also a snap ring that is on the axle, underneath the ball bearing "knuckle" that is inside the ball bearing carrier...get that off, and then the cv joint is off the axle and you can put a new boot on it.

Now, that being said, I am in the process of putting mine back together, and I cannot remember which way the bearing carrier goes in the CV housing???? I am thinking the smaller diameter end towards the outside of the cv joint (towards the axle)...is this right? It seems that it allows the most range of motion that way?? Also, what is the best way to get that snap ring off the axle? I used a dead blow hammer and pounded the ball bearing "knuckle" thingie...the thing that goes inside the ball bearing cage....off the axle and the snap ring was still sitting in the groove on the axle...surely this is not the correct way to do it???? In the service manual I have, it is not real clear on the best way to get it off or to get it back on for that matter. Hopefully someone can chime in here and help us both out
well I got my boot replaced, but this snap ring as mentioned above is a mystery to me, as I know where to look for it, because I found a youtube vid showing where its suppose to be, and yep according to the vid, its right where you say it is.....BUT mine doesn't have it. All I did was give my axel good couple of sharp pulls, and the axel popped out of the cv joint, leaving the cv joint in place still in the rear differental.
different rings. There is a retaining ring on the axle side of the cv joint that keeps your bearings and carrier inside the cv joint housing....when I took mine off, we did the same as you...the CV joint housing was still on the rear diff....I used a couple of large screwdrivers and popped it off the rear gearcase...there is a large snap ring there that holds the CV housing to the gearcase.

How did you get the CV joint back onto the axle? THere is a small snap ring that sits in the groove on the axle...did you just pound the joint on over it? The only way to get the boot on the axle is to take the joint off...I am just having some issues on getting the joint back onto the axle now
lol, not on mine....what keeps the bearings in place inside the joint is hard to explain, but it looks like someone (at the factory) used a punch, and punched each bearing track that each ball sits in...putting a flat spot on each track, so the balls can't go by it. There is no snap ring there. I actually intended to pop the whole axel out of the diff, so I gave it a couple of real good pulls, and the axel came, the joint did not, works for me,lol. And I simple replaced the retaining ring on the splined shaft, put it back in the joint, put the put the main axel nut back on the wheel side of the axel, and gave it a couple of taps with the hammer, and it popped back into place, I'm guessing it was a fluke that the axel came apart from the joint, instead of the joint comming out of the diff,lol.
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How did you get the CV joint back onto the axle? THere is a small snap ring that sits in the groove on the axle...did you just pound the joint on over it? The only way to get the boot on the axle is to take the joint off...I am just having some issues on getting the joint back onto the axle now[/QUOTE]lol, not on mine....what keeps the bearings in place inside the joint is hard to explain, but it looks like someone (at the factory) used a punch, and punched each bearing track that each ball sits in...putting a flat spot on each track, so the balls can't go by it. There is no snap ring there. I actually intended to pop the whole axel out of the diff, so I gave it a couple of real good pulls, and the axel came, the joint did not, works for me,lol. And I simple replaced the retaining ring on the splined shaft, put it back in the joint, put the put the main axel nut back on the wheel side of the axel, and gave it a couple of taps with the hammer, and it popped back into place, I'm guessing it was a fluke that the axel came apart from the joint, instead of the joint comming out of the diff,lol.[/QUOTE]

Did you "re-stake" the metal holding the bearing cage down? My kit directions says to re-stake it, but I'm not sure how deep the bearing cage sits in the plunging house and how to re-stake it.

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Got it all back together and seems to be running good. I didn't need to re-stake the bearings in the plunging joint as I didn't realize I had the ring to hold them in.

Good thread, thanks for all the information!

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