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1995 mid eccentric bearing ?

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9.1K views 7 replies 3 participants last post by  vinceostapowich  
#1 ·
Hi All,
I have a 1995 sportsman 400 4x4.
Machine has about 1000 miles on it ,but I have no idea how much service the eccentrics received as far as greasing etc prior to me buying it.
Anyway,on a ride the other day we got into some sand and shortly there after i heard alot of noise from the frnt end (shrieking and grinding)
You could feel it in your feet ,which generally would mean it was caused by something fairly directly connected to the frame.
The noise would come up mostly in 4 with the wheels turned ,so I assumed it was being made worse by the torque of the locked front end.
I wasnt far from the truck so I put it back in 2 and drove the mile back .
In the shop today I noticed the front chain had considerable slop ,so I adjusted it ,and tested it in the yard,noise still there,came back to shop and found chain loose again.
But this time I could pull on the chain and see the mid eccentric shaft move about a 1/4 inch in the bearing.

Thoughts on bearing price?
Should i pull the whole eccentric and change both bearings?

So,,long story short,naturally this is a problem I'll have to fix asap before using it again,but could I be missing the mark and should I be looking for other causes of this noise as well?
Does anyone else have experience with worn out eccentric bearings and is this a common issue and does it sound to you like this is fairly likely the cause?
Obviously Ill change the bearings and if the sound is gone,well no prob and im on my way.
Ujoints and wheel bearings are all fine,I checked them.

Thanks in advance for any help someone might be able to give me :)
 
#3 ·
No offense but it's really nice to in people with the exact same machine with the same problem! Now to expand on the topic- mine isn't making grinding noises but it did throw off the middle chain wile I was bogging through some mud. I was a little confused cuz the chain was still whole. I just pulled it off and 2x4 my way home. I figured perfect time to put new chain and adjust tension! But on inspecting the eccentric I noticed that the front sprocket of the middle chain was twisted way out of line with the rear sprocket. I then realized that I could wable the drive shafts of the center eccentric like Vince said around 1/8 to maybe 1/4 inch. I know this needs fixed but I'm still not sure this will be enough to straighten out the sprocket alignment. So now that my story time is done the questions: 1) where to get new bearings and/or whole new hub assembly? 2) is there any way to adjust the center eccentric other than spinning it in the clamps?
 
#4 ·
No Offense at All ,I was sort of hoping I'd find someone with a similar Prob .
I'm not sure on the sprocket alignment , but when I'm in there tonight I'll check to see if the alignment is adjustable or fixed with the only adjustment being the housing rotation .
I'll check it over with a straight edge when I'm done.
The whole assembly by the look of it is still available through Polaris as are the bearings etc.
The bearings were about 35 each up here in Canada ,but I found some I think will work from a bearing distributor locally for 6 bucks each .
The dimension I found were
•ID: 25mm
•OD: 47mm
•Height: 12mm
I make videos of my work ,so maybe I'll share it and anyone who needs the reference can use it .
 
#6 · (Edited)
Well,sorry once i got into it my hands were so filthy i didnt want to touch the camera :)
But the step by step is it took me 2.5 hours,(faster now if i had to do it again,likely an hour)
-remove front chain and mid chain guards
-loosen both mid and front chains
-remove both sprockets from mid tightener
-remove both tightener pinch bracket bolts
-remove tightener by tapping it through to the mag size with a piece of wood and rubber hammer
-use a rubber hammer or press and pound,or press the shaft through (itll push the bearing,seal,and spacer out one end with the shaft)
-insert something to press against the outer race of the other bearing from the inside and press or pound the other bearing,seal,and spacer out.
-save the spacers
-clean out tightner housing and clean up shaft
-install new bearings (press on or tap on evenly with something pressing against the outer race (socket or user outer race from old bearing)
-install new orings
-install seals (same way as bearings)
-install spacers (inner groove toward the inside to accept the oring) same as the way you installed the bearings

long end of shaft is to the mag side of engine!
tightener housing should have serial number facing forward !

Reinstall tightener in pinch bracket (space evenly) and pinch bolts will only allow you to install it reasonablly centered
Reinstall sprockets with chain around them
Tighten sprockets
Tighten chains using punch through sprocket and tensioner (mid chain first,front chain last)
Tighten pinch bolts
Reinstall guards

4 beer job,and one at the end after you test ride and find you have no more problems :)