itp wheels

[goatracer]

anyone try the itp ss wheels? are they light? are they cast aluminum? will they fit my 04 scrambler, looking for stock size replacements? thanks in advance

[chopper89]

I got a set of ss black there good rim there not heavy, usaully its the tires that add the weight. I believe there cast. i dont know what pattern on the scrambler. You could try rockymountain atv and see if they have them for your ride.

[cc1999]

I have had many sets of ITP rims, my favorite is the black Type 7, that went out of production last year, but there are still some out there. I had a set of SS's that looked pretty sharp before I took the first ride with them. I highly recomend that if you are looking at different rims exspecially if you are looking at the SS wheels, that you go with the black version.

The black is powdercoaded on there, where the others have a clear coated over polished or brushed aluminum fininsh, which would be fine if it were a car, and or if you never went off road or through any mud, or brush or even tall grass. The clear coat scratches or scuffs real easy, that's why I highly recomend the black version, they hold up much better.

Most cast wheels will actually weigh more then your oem steel wheels, 2-4 pounds each on average. If you have OEM spun aluminum then you are likely going to be gaining 6-8 pounds per wheel going to cast wheels.

General rule of thumb wheel weights are as follows.

Spun aluminum wheel weighs 6-8 #'s
Steel wheel weighs 8-10 #'s
Cast aluminum wheel weighs 12-14 #'s

[goatracer]

wow, thanks for all the information, i was looking at the black as my scrambler is black/yellow, i have stock steel rims now so i guess the weight penalty wont be too bad on my machine

[cc1999]

Spun wheels and steel wheels look alike, so if you want to know which you have, try taking a magnet to them. That will help narrow down how much extra weight to guesstimate.

There is all sorts of rules of thumb for how rotating mass will effect preformance. You tend to see more of an effect, based on the softer the terrain you are riding on more you will notice the drop in power.
Example:
In soft deep sand your tend to see a much larger effect by adding rotating mass.
Where on pavement its not near as noticable.

Sprung weight vs rotating mass in soft terrain can be as high as 1 pound of rotating mass could have the effect of 6 pounds of sprung weight. So 4wheels x 4 pounds of extra raotating mass(wheels or tires) can have a similar perfomance effect of adding 16x6 = 96 pounds of gear or accesories (sprung weight) in soft sand. On pavement it may only be equivelent to adding 32 pounds of sprung weight 1 to 2 ratio.

[goatracer]

i really like the itp ss wheels, im thinking i want set that are just a bit bigger than my stockers, or maybe just a bit taller tire. stock is 22 tall in the rear and 23 tall in front, my bike is 4 wheel drive, as long as i go with say 23 rears and 24 fronts, or maybe 24 rears and 25 fronts will my 4 wheel drive continue to work properly? i realize i will pay a bit of a penalty for weight and a taller will cause a slower acceleration. i bought this a few weeks back and it does have a clutch kit in it, i dont know how muuch of one but i do know it will not move in reverse without useing the reverse over ride due to the looseness of the clutch, i put a new belt on last week as the one it came with let go while i was riding the new belt did tighten the clutch some but its still pretty loose. anyway does anyone see any problems with a small upsize in tires for a 04 scrambler ho? thanks for the input

[bronco]

Originally Posted by cc1999

...Sprung weight vs rotating mass in soft terrain can be as high as 1 pound of rotating mass could have the effect of 6 pounds of sprung weight. So 4wheels x 4 pounds of extra raotating mass(wheels or tires) can have a similar perfomance effect of adding 16x6 = 96 pounds of gear or accesories (sprung weight) in soft sand. On pavement it may only be equivelent to adding 32 pounds of sprung weight 1 to 2 ratio.

Definetly not something you learn in elementary school.