No traction

[CHRISP1218]

Hi, I am new to the site and forum. I have a 2004 troy lee predator. I have a full Yosh tri-oval exhaust, k&n filter and jet kit. I have owned to quad for about 3 months now and had a few questions to see if these issues were normal or just me?it seems like no matter what I do my rear end wants to break loose. I've had it up to about 65-70 and the rear was fish tailing the whole time, it seems like when i'm cruising down a dirt road it sways sisde to side. the front steering is solid. and climbing a hil, forget it. the ass wants to break loose or the quad wants to wheelie up the whole hill. please any info would be helpful. please let me know if anyone else has these problems. thanks

[SMP63]

Welcome to the forum.

[Bruce!]

Welcome to the board!

[josh]

sounds to me like you need to learn to throw your weight. you are on a race bike. the sway side to side may be a difference in tire pressure but as for the hill climbs your not loosing traction if it is able to pull the front end so to me it sounds like you need to work on putting your weight where it's needed wheter if be the back for traction or the front for control. it is a full time balancing act.

[Predasaurs]

Originally Posted by josh

sounds to me like you need to learn to throw your weight. you are on a race bike. the sway side to side may be a difference in tire pressure but as for the hill climbs your not loosing traction if it is able to pull the front end so to me it sounds like you need to work on putting your weight where it's needed wheter if be the back for traction or the front for control. it is a full time balancing act.

agreed also tire pressure is crucial ( i run 4 in front and 2.5 in rear) just personal pref. also check to see what condition your rear hubs are in if their starting it wear out they will spin on the axle , ive gone threw a few and its always happens when i need to go up a hill and cant

[Stealthepooty]

Originally Posted by CHRISP1218

it seems like no matter what I do my rear end wants to break loose. I've had it up to about 65-70 and the rear was fish tailing the whole time, it seems like when i'm cruising down a dirt road it sways sisde to side. the front steering is solid.

and climbing a hil, forget it. the ass wants to break loose or the quad wants to wheelie up the whole hill.

For the first part, you may have more power than tire traction. Can you post some pics of your tires?

For the hill, when I was on my dirt rocket Honda ATC 250R, I would have to stand up and lean forward going up steep hills, chest in the handle bars. If your quad is doing a wheelie uphill, are you still sitting in the seat?

[josh]

Originally Posted by Predasaurs

agreed also tire pressure is crucial ( i run 4 in front and 2.5 in rear) just personal pref. also check to see what condition your rear hubs are in if their starting it wear out they will spin on the axle , ive gone threw a few and its always happens when i need to go up a hill and cant

this is true i did wipe a few hubs on my old predator. come to think about it i still have a problem killing hubs on my 4x4s too. but when mine go, they go leaving me limping home with a wobbly dead tire.

[Predasaurs]

Originally Posted by josh

this is true i did wipe a few hubs on my old predator. come to think about it i still have a problem killing hubs on my 4x4s too. but when mine go, they go leaving me limping home with a wobbly dead tire.

u should try duara blue hubs havent had a problem yet its a aluminum hub with a steel insert

[Candybeard02]

Originally Posted by Predasaurs

agreed also tire pressure is crucial ( i run 4 in front and 2.5 in rear) just personal pref. also check to see what condition your rear hubs are in if their starting it wear out they will spin on the axle , ive gone threw a few and its always happens when i need to go up a hill and cant

Check the hubs and make sure their tight and your rear axles not bent or tweaked. You may also wanna check your rear axle bearings and sway arm to make sure theirs not any excessive play.

Sounds to me like a rider issue. Not saying you can't ride or anything, just saying you have to realize the power to weight ratio on this bike. All your serious performance bikes, even stock, (IE, predator, raptor, 450r, ect...) are going to be difficult to handle running hard for someone used to utility bikes. My girl has the same complaints you do (squirly rearend and the front end comming up all the time) while riding my pred and yet myself and friends that ride sport bikes get on the same bike and all swear it handles fine. Have a truly experienced rider take it for a spin and see what they say.

[cwlongshot]

I agree with the previous posters. It's got allot of power. Side to side is just two rear tires fighting against each other trying to gain traction. Both tires breaking loose on one axle are also " lo side finders" the always go to lower side.

The wheelie well you know what that is. Dams hi horsepower engine GETTING traction!!!

Practice body position as suggested.

CW