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post #21 of 42 (permalink) Old 04-02-2013, 06:17 PM Thread Starter
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Sorry I haven't said anything on this in awhile. Initial estimates on set up and first run of 50 would be $5000. Needless to say, I lost most interest in it with cost per unit of $100. I'm still looking for a smaller shop that will work with me on smaller initial run and lower cost.

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Jesus, you could get a smelter, forms, and sand for far less than that. and do it yourself. WTF?

you might look into a machine shop, or a fab shop instead of someone to do a casting. all you're really looking for is a tab on a cylinder. a cylinder of Ali of the right outer diameter with some flat stock welded on of the proper length. Really a simple set up. it'd be stronger if it was milled from 1 peice, but that probably wouldn't be cost effective.

Say you bought a tig set up for Ali ($1400), a cold saw for the cutting the stock($300). Drill press ($150) and good metal bits($100). you're still under $2000 in tools and probably materials for your first 50 or so units.

Set up a jig and do production runs for your cuts and you can blast out 50+ in half a day. if you sell fifty at $25 you're at $1250 so two runs of 50 and you're in the profit range. three and you're well into it. $25 is more than enough to cover the cost of the materials and the time and consumables used for each unit. It's all about getting a production line set up.
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I have a machine shop and would enjoy doing something like this. I do not want to take mine apart at the present time to give it a look cause they are loaded to go riding for 3 or 4 days.

Do you have pic of the original? (with it out of the assembly)

To give an idea of what kind of stuff I make, we are currently making 10 poles for high end stand up jet skis. Compatible with all 3 brands and Powder Coated.
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Zoom,

Do you feel that my accessment of the costs are pretty close to what you could do?
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Just a thought on the design concept..... in the thought of making it an inch longer, what if that inch was arched to allow the radious point of contact between thumb and lever to remain close to the same, to aid in thumb fatigue for all riders (and our children/wives). As Zoomeroo asked..... Does anyone have a picture of one removed from the machine?



This shape would be a bear to machine....... But, if you could get a plastics mold made and use a better material, such as polycarbonate (Lexan) or even better get the part made from sintered aluminum or investment casted..... wish I had the time and capital to create such a mold. At the price of half the cost of the assembly..... they should sell and be a better part than oem. Hmmmm...... I could however create the 3D modeling files!

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Just a thought on the design concept..... in the thought of making it an inch longer, what if that inch was arched to allow the radious point of contact between thumb and lever to remain close to the same, to aid in thumb fatigue for all riders (and our children/wives). As Zoomeroo asked..... Does anyone have a picture of one removed from the machine?



This shape would be a bear to machine....... But, if you could get a plastics mold made and use a better material, such as polycarbonate (Lexan) or even better get the part made from sintered aluminum or investment casted..... wish I had the time and capital to create such a mold. At the price of half the cost of the assembly..... they should sell and be a better part than oem. Hmmmm...... I could however create the 3D modeling files!

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I am in total agreement. It would be as simple as putting a strengthening rib in the back. I have been thinking of epoxying a piece of ABS plastic on the back of the stock lever. I am now carrying an extra lever and tools for change out.

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I have a machine shop and would enjoy doing something like this. I do not want to take mine apart at the present time to give it a look cause they are loaded to go riding for 3 or 4 days.

Do you have pic of the original? (with it out of the assembly)

To give an idea of what kind of stuff I make, we are currently making 10 poles for high end stand up jet skis. Compatible with all 3 brands and Powder Coated.
Dude, I will send you a broken copy if you would really like to take a shot at it. Also, I am willing to test the proto type.

IM me with a mailing address and I will send it off to you within the week.

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here is the back picture of the repair
that pic is very familiar. think that is the one that i repaired for my bike..

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here is the back picture of the repair
that pic is very familiar. think that is the one that i repaired for my bike..
Ha, just may be..... it came from this site.

I've never had mine apart (knock on wood)..... how do they attach? While searching the web I came across a 2 piece version, but it looked hokie to me.

We once had a "challenge coin" done for our local FD.... Price depended on quantity ordered (about $20 a piece X40+) want to say overall cost was $1000-1500. Wonder if something like this could be made/sourced through a company like that? Or how much a small new mold would cost???

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if it's cast, the mold is easy, it's the blanks that are expensive. but my guess is that the challenge coins were stamped which is dies and a totally different beast. As with everything, the more you make the cheaper it is to make it. with something like this, where many people will not see the benefit of going to a metal thumb throttle when they can get it cheaper and easier in plastic, quantity is not on your side. You've also got to consider the liability of having a metal thumb throttle that doesn't have a break away point. someone breaks their thumb, and it's due to the metal thumb throttle they could come after the manufacturer.
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