I have owned and ridden all three machine 800 rene ( 2012 )... sold, 1000 outlander xmr ( 2012 )... sold, and I just pruchased a 2013 Scrambler 850. As far as power goes the 1000 is a beast, it is just incredible the power that comes in a fourwheeler these days. But the machine is enormous and heavy, I mean back breaking heavy, especially in the mud, stuck, in the woods by yourself heavy. I really enjoyed the 800 renegade it was very fast and comfortable to ride, good power also. With all that the Scrambler I just bought is by far the best all around machine I have owned. Very nimble excellent power and the suspension is absolutley killer. Coming from a motocross background, any fourwheeler that you can ride the whoops at 45 to 50 mph and your kidneys are not bleeding when you are done riding takes the cake as far as I am concerned. Definitely not doing that on a 1000 xmr, and the rengade was good but it will still beat you to death. Of course nothing will compare to my Cr 500, but as far as fourwheelers go I am very impressed with the scrambler. If deep mud is your thing - 1000 xmr spend the money, its done - wheels, tires, winch... done. If you are planning on trials, mud, and just all around good riding go with the polaris.