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JimKim 08-18-2019 06:31 PM

1996 400 Sport Max Bore Size
 
I have a 96 Sportsman. It has been bored out. I measured the jug tonight. It's 3.331". Isn't that a bit large for a stock cylinder? I'm familiar with cars, not motorcycles. By my math it's roughly 0.060" over. Also, what kind of rings do y'all recommend. If it was a street car I'd want moly rings, but since it's a 2 stroke I'm thinking ductile iron would be better. Again, this is my first forray into the 2 stroke world. I guess this is my midlife crisis. Thanks in advance.

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latebird 08-19-2019 11:18 AM

85 mm - 2 mm over stock (3.346 inches) is the maximum bore using a Wiseco piston with TD rings (Alloy steel, ferrox coated, chrome faced)

By your measurement 3.331" (84.61 mm) - the cylinder is already worn very close to the wear limit of .60" (.15 mm)

Two stroke pistons are usually sized in .5mm (.020") oversizes

Your choice is to bore to 85 mm and install a new piston set or have the cylinder sleeved back to stock and install a new 83 mm piston or have the cylinder sleeved, bored to 84.5 mm and reuse the piston with a new set of rings. The problem with the last suggestion is finding rings for the piston you have. If it's a Wiseco piston, just get a set of Wiseco rings that match the bore. If it's a Polaris (Robin) piston, good luck finding rings - Polaris has discontinued all sizes. The rings usually have to match the piston. I know you cant install Polaris rings on a Wiseco piston while Wiseco rings may go on a Polaris piston, there will be excessive clearance on the lands and sealing will be poor which can lead to poor running at certain or all engine speeds.

JimKim 08-19-2019 09:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by latebird (Post 1439929)
85 mm - 2 mm over stock (3.346 inches) is the maximum bore using a Wiseco piston with TD rings (Alloy steel, ferrox coated, chrome faced)



By your measurement 3.331" (84.61 mm) - the cylinder is already worn very close to the wear limit of .60" (.15 mm)



Two stroke pistons are usually sized in .5mm (.020") oversizes



Your choice is to bore to 85 mm and install a new piston set or have the cylinder sleeved back to stock and install a new 83 mm piston or have the cylinder sleeved, bored to 84.5 mm and reuse the piston with a new set of rings. The problem with the last suggestion is finding rings for the piston you have. If it's a Wiseco piston, just get a set of Wiseco rings that match the bore. If it's a Polaris (Robin) piston, good luck finding rings - Polaris has discontinued all sizes. The rings usually have to match the piston. I know you cant install Polaris rings on a Wiseco piston while Wiseco rings may go on a Polaris piston, there will be excessive clearance on the lands and sealing will be poor which can lead to poor running at certain or all engine speeds.

Luckily I have access to a handtool that is used to cut grooves in pistons. I'm guessing it's called a grooving tool.

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