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post #1 of 15 (permalink) Old 04-11-2019, 01:29 PM Thread Starter
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Life expectancy of non greasable ball joints???

Just got my new All Balls ball joints and realized they are compleatly sealed. In other words there is a solid plate/disc on the bottom end of the new joints not allowing any grease from the zerk that is in the strut housing for greasing the ball joint. I have read that some are drilling a hole in the plate/disc to allow grease to inter the joint. It is sad to pay for the joint and then have to modify it to get some decent life out of it. Or am I worring about nothing. We don't intentionally go mudding other what you may encounter on a trail and then I would rather drive arount it than go through it. So I'm wondering what experince you all have had??
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I have installed a bunch of the All Balls joints without an issue. Like you I don't go through the water/mud if I don't have to. Ball joints are a wear item and will need to be replaced at some point. I would expect thousands of miles though.

Mine: 2018 Sportsman 850SP - 26" Bear Claw HTRs on OEM steel wheels(I really don't like the Aluminum ones)
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I have installed a bunch of the All Balls joints without an issue. Like you I don't go through the water/mud if I don't have to. Ball joints are a wear item and will need to be replaced at some point. I would expect thousands of miles though.
So you install and don't grease them, just replace them when they fail? My 06, 800 sportsman is 13 years old with only 941 miles, I suspect the ball joints are the stock ones and are not as tight as I feel they should be. If I wasn't putting wheel bearings in I wouldn't change them out now.
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Yes, but I haven't had to replace any of them yet. My son in law's Trail Boss got a set, and both of my 325 machines. I think I used them on my 600 too.

Mine: 2018 Sportsman 850SP - 26" Bear Claw HTRs on OEM steel wheels(I really don't like the Aluminum ones)
Polaris Hand warmers, Mirrors.
Hers: 2019 Sportsman 450. 26" Bear Claw HTRs on Moose 427X Wheels.

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2001 Magnum 325 MOSE 12" rear wheel conversion. 25" Sedona Coyote tires
2017 Polaris Ranger 1000XP - Roof and front glass
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2001 Magnum 325 Warn winch and Moose 60" plow-Sent to Daughter and Son-In-Law since his blew up
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I have installed a bunch of the All Balls joints without an issue. Like you I don't go through the water/mud if I don't have to. Ball joints are a wear item and will need to be replaced at some point. I would expect thousands of miles though.
So you install and don't grease them, just replace them when they fail? My 06, 800 sportsman is 13 years old with only 941 miles, I suspect the ball joints are the stock ones and are not as tight as I feel they should be. If I wasn't putting wheel bearings in I wouldn't change them out now.
ONLY the older models have greaseable ball joints. Its pretty hard to even find them nowdays unless you buy OEM's and they cost about $50 each. One redeeming thing about the "greaseless" ones is that they are very easy to remove by just taking the retaining plate off and pumping grease in the fitting to push them out.

BUT NOTE*** YOU NEED TO PRESS IN ON THE GREASE ZERK BALL WHEN PRESSING GREASELESS JOINTS IN TO LET THE AIR PURGE OUT FROM UNDER THE JOINT. IF YOU DON'T THE TRAPPED AIR CAN MAKE THEM NEARLY IMPOSSILBE TO SEAT.
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Is the zerk pressed in or screwed in? If screwed in one can just unscrew them to relieve air pressure correct?
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Is the zerk pressed in or screwed in? If screwed in one can just unscrew them to relieve air pressure correct?
I'm not absolutely sure but I think they're pressed in.
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What would you guys recommend for ball joints, All Balls or Big Boss ball joints? They look very similar to me, anybody have experience with either?

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I used aftertmarket ball-joints and tie-rod ends now I'm back to OEM. OEM is better from what I gather. Here's a pic of the AM ball-joints I just removed. I would gather these have 700-800 miles on them.
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CTEK 3300 battery maintainer
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I have used All Balls and had good luck with them

Mine: 2018 Sportsman 850SP - 26" Bear Claw HTRs on OEM steel wheels(I really don't like the Aluminum ones)
Polaris Hand warmers, Mirrors.
Hers: 2019 Sportsman 450. 26" Bear Claw HTRs on Moose 427X Wheels.

2007 Sportsman 500 EFI, Polaris Winch, 25" Bear Claws QSC Clutch Kit, Hand Warmers
2001 Magnum 325 MOSE 12" rear wheel conversion. 25" Sedona Coyote tires
2017 Polaris Ranger 1000XP - Roof and front glass
2018 Kawasaki KLR650
2001 Magnum 325 Warn winch and Moose 60" plow-Sent to Daughter and Son-In-Law since his blew up
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