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post #1 of 14 (permalink) Old 06-29-2019, 06:24 PM Thread Starter
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King Kong tightened my wheels!

My wife and I picked up our new 570 SP's today. I purchased a battery warranty(not sure if that was wise), but it came with 2 battery maintainers.

So I go to install the connector, and I can't get the lug nuts loose. I had to use my 1/2 inch electric impact to break them loose. I surely didn't put them back on that tight (as far as my 1/4 inch impact would go, and then a bit more with a hand ratchet).

I am greasing the chassis, as I seen somewhere that they don't add enough grease, and it's easiest when you have the wheel off!
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My wife and I picked up our new 570 SP's today. I purchased a battery warranty(not sure if that was wise), but it came with 2 battery maintainers.

So I go to install the connector, and I can't get the lug nuts loose. I had to use my 1/2 inch electric impact to break them loose. I surely didn't put them back on that tight (as far as my 1/4 inch impact would go, and then a bit more with a hand ratchet).

I am greasing the chassis, as I seen somewhere that they don't add enough grease, and it's easiest when you have the wheel off!
Congrat's on the new ride. I believe KONG worked on my 08 PS 500 too, I tried getting the front diff hex nut/bolt off with my 8mm Allen wrench and it was a no way, I was afraid I was going to strip out the hex bolt. Made a run to the local Harbor Freight and bought a new set of Pittsburg metric hex sockets. I still had to use a cheater pipe to get it to break loose.

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My wife and I picked up our new 570 SP's today. I purchased a battery warranty(not sure if that was wise), but it came with 2 battery maintainers.

So I go to install the connector, and I can't get the lug nuts loose. I had to use my 1/2 inch electric impact to break them loose. I surely didn't put them back on that tight (as far as my 1/4 inch impact would go, and then a bit more with a hand ratchet).

I am greasing the chassis, as I seen somewhere that they don't add enough grease, and it's easiest when you have the wheel off!
Congrat's on the new ride. I believe KONG worked on my 08 PS 500 too, I tried getting the front diff hex nut/bolt off with my 8mm Allen wrench and it was a no way, I was afraid I was going to strip out the hex bolt. Made a run to the local Harbor Freight and bought a new set of Pittsburg metric hex sockets. I still had to use a cheater pipe to get it to break loose.

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King Kong put on your lug nuts you may be right. But when you do your first oil change you will find that his brother installed the oil filter. The easiest way to remove the oil filter for the first time is to do it when the engine is COLD. Loosen it up first before starting the engine. Then retighten it by hand. Now start the oil change process by warming the engine up.
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post #4 of 14 (permalink) Old 06-30-2019, 04:57 AM
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Funny how the service manual publishes specified torque values and everything from the assemble plant is either too loose or too tight. Of course things that don't need to be TIGHT are too tight and everything that need to be tight are either too tight or too loose - very few just right. Same goes for the engine, but at least the engine is closer to having the correct torques.

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My 1000 Sportsman Touring Service Manuel calls for 75 pounds torque on the lug nuts. We snapped a lug stud well before that. I crank them down sold now but am not going by the book again.

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Nah, It wasn't King Kong. It was a little skinny guy with a strong impact who believes in the philosophy that more is better.
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When in doubt, use the 'general' torque specs based on the size of the fastener

While the manual calls for 75 ft lbs on aluminum wheels, it also specs 45 ft lbs on steel wheels

I believe they use the same size studs (diameter) and I believe the diameter is 10mm - my Ford F150 has 12-1.75mm studs and the torque is 85-115 ft lbs (a fine thread stud could take a higher torque)

The studs on the Polaris (I'm guessing because I cannot find it in the literature and I do not have one around that I can measure) are generally 10mm and probably grade 8.8 and no higher than 12.9. Based on general torque values for metric bolts - a 10mm stud would be torqued to 37 to 63 ft lbs - a 12mm stud 63 to 110 depending on the grade of material and thread pitch. Therefore it may be a misprint or the studs are 12mm.

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While the manual calls for 75 ft lbs on aluminum wheels, it also specs 45 ft lbs on steel wheels
Latebird the service manual I have says 75 for steel and aluminum. I understand what you are saying though and that's how were are going to deal with the lugs in the future.

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I guess it just proves that there are errors and/or inconsistencies in the literature. I have corrected some errors, omissions and misinformation in several manuals.

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torque specs are also based on the shape of the fastener. the flat surface of the standard nuts used on steel wheels hold differently that the angled shape of the nuts used for the aluminium wheels (look more like automotive lugs) the fiction surface also is involved. Steel being less likely to gouge than Aluminium. thus the different shapes of the fasteners.

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