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@Berserker - where did you get your electrical degree? I got mine at United Electronics Institute in Louisville, KY and I worked at General Electric's High Current Lab in Bloomington, IL. I admit I never worked with 125 VDC for a living, but I have worked with 3 phase AC up to 1 million amps at 600 volts. GE secured several patents for programs that I participated in and I developed test programs that were adopted by GE as standard operating procedures. While at GE, I conducted tests for Underwriters Laboratories. I have experience with Variable Frequency Drives, Programmable Logic Controls, EPROM's and RFC's.

This is just a condensed portion of my resume which includes experience as a store manager for Montgomery Ward, mechanic in several motorcycle dealerships, a maintenance supervisor in a steel roll-forming factory, gas station operator, employee in a specialty food warehouse, heavy equipment operator, truck driver, farmer and motorcycle shop proprietor. In addition, I served 6 years in the Army as a never deployed Armored Reconnaissance specialist during the Viet Nam war era. I have training in explosives and a variety of weaponry. I can repel, sky dive and was (no longer am) a certified life guard. I have training as a welder and a machinist.

How about a brief of your's?

I went Michigan tech, EE, PE in WI, been doing start up on substations and power plants, and mills. Rebuilt engines on sleds and bikes. Not ATVs.


But I don;t care how long sat around someplace. You said a battery would recharge, with the machine not running, on the trail. That a battery could could dead on the trail, and recharge it self a few times. By not running.

You should not be giving electrical advice. Plus trouble shooting is a skill.
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by latebird. The guy knows his shit!
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Not electrical though.
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@Berserker - where did you get your electrical degree? I got mine at United Electronics Institute in Louisville, KY and I worked at General Electric's High Current Lab in Bloomington, IL. I admit I never worked with 125 VDC for a living, but I have worked with 3 phase AC up to 1 million amps at 600 volts. GE secured several patents for programs that I participated in and I developed test programs that were adopted by GE as standard operating procedures. While at GE, I conducted tests for Underwriters Laboratories. I have experience with Variable Frequency Drives, Programmable Logic Controls, EPROM's and RFC's.

This is just a condensed portion of my resume which includes experience as a store manager for Montgomery Ward, mechanic in several motorcycle dealerships, a maintenance supervisor in a steel roll-forming factory, gas station operator, employee in a specialty food warehouse, heavy equipment operator, truck driver, farmer and motorcycle shop proprietor. In addition, I served 6 years in the Army as a never deployed Armored Reconnaissance specialist during the Viet Nam war era. I have training in explosives and a variety of weaponry. I can repel, sky dive and was (no longer am) a certified life guard. I have training as a welder and a machinist.

How about a brief of your's?
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Example - you are using a flashlight and it gets dimmer and dimmer - you turn the light off for a minute or so - when you turn it back on it is fairly bright for awhile, but quickly dims again. Each time you turn it off and then back on, the shorter the period of time the light is bright again. Turn the light on and leave it on until the battery is completely drained and the likelihood of the battery rebuilding it's charge is decreased.

Answer these questions:

1) Does a lead acid battery function on liquid or gas?

2) What is the fundamental difference between a gasoline engine in a snowmobile, motorcycle, ATV, automobile, boat, generator, pump, scooter, lawnmower or tractor? There is a fundamental difference between 2 stroke and 4 stroke motors so don't go into that.

You are correct; trouble shooting is a skill, but so is grammar and punctuation. Skills are learned - talents are gifts from God. Please don't confuse the two.

I cannot argue with someone obviously smarter than me, but I can offer my opinion as to the possibilities of the problem in question as presented with the limited knowledge of the untrained member of this forum.
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You believe it will chare on the trail to the point where it will start again? On the trail multiple times?

It wont. If you believe it will you should not be giving advice.

If times passes and it starts agaim,gets hot, dies, wait start, dies wait start, it is not battery or charging system issue.

Not saying not bad component. But battery is not charging itself with machine off and starting again.
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Ahh, why are we discussing 2 vs 4 stroke? I did not give advice on the knocking of this engine.
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We are not discussing - it was just a simple question as in another post you made reference to knowing about "sleds and motorcycles, but not ATV's" - I am just asking what the fundamental difference is between the engines in sleds, motorcycles and ATV's.
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Just trying to be honest and not misrepresent my experience.
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knock

Pull the drain plug and look for bearing material.....
look at the bright side...if you do the right thing you will be out in 15....give or take....
sucks what happened
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@Berserker - where did you get your electrical degree? I got mine at United Electronics Institute in Louisville, KY and I worked at General Electric's High Current Lab in Bloomington, IL. I admit I never worked with 125 VDC for a living, but I have worked with 3 phase AC up to 1 million amps at 600 volts. GE secured several patents for programs that I participated in and I developed test programs that were adopted by GE as standard operating procedures. While at GE, I conducted tests for Underwriters Laboratories. I have experience with Variable Frequency Drives, Programmable Logic Controls, EPROM's and RFC's.

This is just a condensed portion of my resume which includes experience as a store manager for Montgomery Ward, mechanic in several motorcycle dealerships, a maintenance supervisor in a steel roll-forming factory, gas station operator, employee in a specialty food warehouse, heavy equipment operator, truck driver, farmer and motorcycle shop proprietor. In addition, I served 6 years in the Army as a never deployed Armored Reconnaissance specialist during the Viet Nam war era. I have training in explosives and a variety of weaponry. I can repel, sky dive and was (no longer am) a certified life guard. I have training as a welder and a machinist.

How about a brief of your's?

I went Michigan tech, EE, PE in WI, been doing start up on substations and power plants, and mills. Rebuilt engines on sleds and bikes. Not ATVs.


But I don;t care how long sat around someplace. You said a battery would recharge, with the machine not running, on the trail. That a battery could could dead on the trail, and recharge it self a few times. By not running.

You should not be giving electrical advice. Plus trouble shooting is a skill.
I get your point.
But with your “black and white” responses, it would seem the jokes on you.
Just so happens, according to this read, that batteries do in fact “recharge” when left to sit. Maybe not to the degree that it will, on more than one occasion, recharge enough to start an ATV, but again according to this article, they do recharge.
https://electronics.howstuffworks.co...uestion390.htm


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@Berserker - where did you get your electrical degree? I got mine at United Electronics Institute in Louisville, KY and I worked at General Electric's High Current Lab in Bloomington, IL. I admit I never worked with 125 VDC for a living, but I have worked with 3 phase AC up to 1 million amps at 600 volts. GE secured several patents for programs that I participated in and I developed test programs that were adopted by GE as standard operating procedures. While at GE, I conducted tests for Underwriters Laboratories. I have experience with Variable Frequency Drives, Programmable Logic Controls, EPROM's and RFC's.

This is just a condensed portion of my resume which includes experience as a store manager for Montgomery Ward, mechanic in several motorcycle dealerships, a maintenance supervisor in a steel roll-forming factory, gas station operator, employee in a specialty food warehouse, heavy equipment operator, truck driver, farmer and motorcycle shop proprietor. In addition, I served 6 years in the Army as a never deployed Armored Reconnaissance specialist during the Viet Nam war era. I have training in explosives and a variety of weaponry. I can repel, sky dive and was (no longer am) a certified life guard. I have training as a welder and a machinist.

How about a brief of your's?

I went Michigan tech, EE, PE in WI, been doing start up on substations and power plants, and mills. Rebuilt engines on sleds and bikes. Not ATVs.


But I don;t care how long sat around someplace. You said a battery would recharge, with the machine not running, on the trail. That a battery could could dead on the trail, and recharge it self a few times. By not running.

You should not be giving electrical advice. Plus trouble shooting is a skill.
I get your point.
But with your “black and white” responses, it would seem the jokes on you.
Just so happens, according to this read, that batteries do in fact “recharge” when left to sit. Maybe not to the degree that it will, on more than one occasion, recharge enough to start an ATV, but again according to this article, they do recharge.
https://electronics.howstuffworks.co...uestion390.htm

The guy said he did this multuple times on trail to get home. I understand the whole trickle of the battery. But I really don't think that is what got him home. For that guy other areas are best looked at.

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