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Any suggestions / info for this Trail Boss?

My sister-in-law has been begging us to go four wheeling for some time. She has an old Trail Boss that I pushed out of her shed this afternoon. Haven't tried to start it as the battery was dead and didn't have time to put it on a charger. She says it ran previously "awhile ago".

Guessing it is a 95 model and wondering if it would be worth having a shop give it a once over. She can't find any paperwork for it. Not even sure where the VIN is on these. Aren't these a 2-stroke?
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post #2 of 52 (permalink) Old 09-02-2019, 03:57 PM
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Yes the 250 is a 2 stroke. Where in NW Illinois are you? I am between Lena and Freeport. I can work on it cheaper than the shop. Send me a PM if you want some help.
On the older ones, you can find the VIN on the frame up behind the right front tire. Newer ones with the 17 digit VIN will be on the bottom left frame rail just behind the LF tire.

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The part number on the gearbox indicates it was installed on 95 Trail Blazer and 95 - 99 Trail Boss 250

For the 95/96 models, look for the model number on the RH frame tube around or below the shift lever - it will start with W followed by 95 or 96 followed by the 4 digit model number 8527 - on the 97-99 models it will be a 17 digit VIN on the LH lower frame tube in front of the floorboard and behind the front wheel

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I will try and go down and hose it off Thursday. I will look for the VIN then. So what kind of fuel mixture does this require? Doesn't sound like it would be easy to run it down the Cheese Trail without bringing it's own gas. Is there somewhere you can find a owner's manual for these?

stave7119 - I was thinking of dropping it off at Full Throttle in Lena, but I will keep your offer in mind. It's not mine, but I saw another thread on here, where kayakextreme had a similar machine with a $2200 estimate. Hoping that it just needs a battery, fluids and a filter, but it has been sitting for sometime.
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Fuel oil ratio should be about 20:1 - if it has the oil pump in place and operational, all you need is gas in the gas tank and injector oil in the oil tank.

I found an owners manual for a 2003 model, but nothing older.

stave might be your best option for the older model repairs - the kids in the dealership don't know anything about carbs - the new crop of mechanics only know fuel injection and computers - if they can't plug a computer into it, they can't fix it

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I work part time at Full Throttle building the side by sides. The kids in the shop do know their stuff. We work on this kind of stuff all the time. The shop foreman is Mike and he has been around for a long time. Very capable young men. Most likely needs a battery and carb cleaning which would be pretty reasonable. If its more than that let me know, I just live about 10 minutes from there.

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2001 Magnum 325 MOSE 12" rear wheel conversion. 25" Sedona Coyote tires
2017 Polaris Ranger 1000XP - Roof and front glass
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stave7119 I hope so. I have been happy with Full Throttle with servicing mine so far.

Any ideas on where I could find a owner's manual for this. I really don't know much about these older 2-strokes and never heard of one that mixes itself. Would make it easier for her to ride the trails.

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The oil injected 2 strokes have been around for quite a while and are very reliable. While you are in there, look at the flyer for the Southern Wisconsin Guided Trail Ride that I put on the bulletin board in the showroom. Middleton fall rides are coming up next month. Dan puts on a great Ride, all on private property! You can also find it on Facebook.

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2007 Sportsman 500 EFI, Polaris Winch, 25" Bear Claws QSC Clutch Kit, Hand Warmers
2001 Magnum 325 MOSE 12" rear wheel conversion. 25" Sedona Coyote tires
2017 Polaris Ranger 1000XP - Roof and front glass
2018 Kawasaki KLR650
2001 Magnum 325 Warn winch and Moose 60" plow-Sent to Daughter and Son-In-Law since his blew up
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I work part time at Full Throttle building the side by sides. The kids in the shop do know their stuff. We work on this kind of stuff all the time. The shop foreman is Mike and he has been around for a long time. Very capable young men. Most likely needs a battery and carb cleaning which would be pretty reasonable. If its more than that let me know, I just live about 10 minutes from there.
stave - everyone knows I have a bad attitude and here's why I have the opinion about the 'kids' who man the shops:

I hired a guy who graduated MMI - I thought he was a trained mechanic - I found out he was a trained student - he knew which way to turn nuts and bolts - he knew the difference between a #2 and #3 phillips screws and had heard of posi-drive, but he knew nothing of point type ignition and was baffled when he had to work on an early model Kawasaki Ninja with electronic ignition. The early Ninja used an Ignition Control Module (electronic set of points) to operate the ignition. Some Polaris models use the same design of ignition that is described as CDI although it is not CDI. Once he understood how a point type ignition worked, then he could understand how the ECM system worked, but he still wanted a diagnostic tool to plug into it to determine what the problem was instead of using his brain to figure it out.

I spent 3 years training him and then he decided he didn't like working on motorcycles and ATV's - when he left, I looked for someone to replace him, but when I found that I was getting things done faster without an 'employee' to interrupt me, I quit looking.

Have you noticed that the kids manning the cash registers at various places of business can't make change without the display showing what the change should be?

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Yeah, I understand your frustration....For the most part the younger kids just don't have the experience that we older guys do. They have never seen point style ignition and have no idea what a dwell meter is for. Since the technology is so outdated that I am not sure it even gets taught in the schools. The 20 somethings have never worked on anything that wasn't computer controlled. Both these pony tail kids are pretty sharp. Both local kids that I think did graduate from MMI or a similar school. There is an older guy in the shop too, but he does mostly oil changes and easier stuff. Kids have rebuild some engines and transmissions and we get all brands of machines in the shop, not just Polaris. Scooters, Bikes, Snowmobiles, ATV and UTV

And the head of the shop, Mike, is closer to my age and has been around it for a while. Spends a lot of time on the phone telling people how to fix their stuff.

Mine: 2018 Sportsman 850SP - 26" Bear Claw HTRs on OEM steel wheels(I really don't like the Aluminum ones)
Polaris Hand warmers, Mirrors.
Hers: 2019 Sportsman 450. 26" Bear Claw HTRs on Moose 427X Wheels.

2007 Sportsman 500 EFI, Polaris Winch, 25" Bear Claws QSC Clutch Kit, Hand Warmers
2001 Magnum 325 MOSE 12" rear wheel conversion. 25" Sedona Coyote tires
2017 Polaris Ranger 1000XP - Roof and front glass
2018 Kawasaki KLR650
2001 Magnum 325 Warn winch and Moose 60" plow-Sent to Daughter and Son-In-Law since his blew up
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