maybe in the states...
here in canada:
OUTLANDER 1000 XT=13 049$$$
SPORTSMAN 850 XP EPS HO= 9 999$-11 399$....
the polaris dealers here EASILY budge up to 3000$ in rebates.. (only 2500$ on the machine though)
can am dealers NEVER budged more than 500$ for me or my friends...
you can "easily" get the 850 here for 9000-10000 OTD...
even less if its not the "season" (they seem to be sold mostly near fall for hunting season, sales lower in the winter, maybe rise a tad bit in the spring and the summer stays as one of the least sold months...)
and i agree, every brand has lemons... and no machine is built better than another really...
my friends grizzly sure seems nice and and "reliable" and all but the performance isnt even CLOSE...
i presently have maybe 20 people who own 850's, and 3 others are soon switching from a can am to a popo (850)...
either way, both machines (can am and polaris) are REALLY differently oriented at different customers...
if i had any problem like you guys have experienced id just leave it at the dealer and demand a new one... on the FIRST problem...
(sorry to add donovan but 7 buddies of mine got the 1000, 3 are very satisfied (kinda obvious as they had really old quads before) and 2 regretting spending so much money on them and the last 2 already had problems... but not going to go into that)
and like i said... even some people got LEMON honda atv's that are "reliable"...
so... if its not the driver who is the blame, its probably just bad luck or a faulty atv from the assembly line ... (hey, we dont have some hand made atv's so problems from an assembling line are always possible)
OH and P.S.
my buddy has an 09 850 and has already 5000 KM on it...
his wifes, an 10 850 eps, has over 4500KM on hers and no problem what so ever... they are both really the oposite drivers... he drives it like he stole it and doesnt wouldnt bother doing maintenance if his wife didnt tell him to, while she is a very calm driver, doesnt baby the machine either but isnt an agressive rider either... and like i said... neither never had any problems...