What problems, Shui? Hopefully minor?maybe in the states...I've made my way over to the Can-Am Outlander 1000 and though they are expensive ($11,900). I have seen 850's cost $15,000 after all the first years repairs. I'm not saying Can-Am is perfect. Just in case someone decides to chime in.
here in canada:
OUTLANDER 1000 XT=13 049$$$
SPORTSMAN 850 XP EPS HO= 9 999$-11 399$....
the polaris dealers here EASILY budge up to 3000$ in rebates.. (only 2500$ on the machine though)
can am dealers NEVER budged more than 500$ for me or my friends...
you can "easily" get the 850 here for 9000-10000 OTD...
even less if its not the "season" (they seem to be sold mostly near fall for hunting season, sales lower in the winter, maybe rise a tad bit in the spring and the summer stays as one of the least sold months...)
and i agree, every brand has lemons... and no machine is built better than another really...
my friends grizzly sure seems nice and and "reliable" and all but the performance isnt even CLOSE...
i presently have maybe 20 people who own 850's, and 3 others are soon switching from a can am to a popo (850)...
either way, both machines (can am and polaris) are REALLY differently oriented at different customers...
if i had any problem like you guys have experienced id just leave it at the dealer and demand a new one... on the FIRST problem...
(sorry to add donovan but 7 buddies of mine got the 1000, 3 are very satisfied (kinda obvious as they had really old quads before) and 2 regretting spending so much money on them and the last 2 already had problems... but not going to go into that)
and like i said... even some people got LEMON honda atv's that are "reliable"...
so... if its not the driver who is the blame, its probably just bad luck or a faulty atv from the assembly line ... (hey, we dont have some hand made atv's so problems from an assembling line are always possible)
OH and P.S.
my buddy has an 09 850 and has already 5000 KM on it...
his wifes, an 10 850 eps, has over 4500KM on hers and no problem what so ever... they are both really the oposite drivers... he drives it like he stole it and doesnt wouldnt bother doing maintenance if his wife didnt tell him to, while she is a very calm driver, doesnt baby the machine either but isnt an agressive rider either... and like i said... neither never had any problems...
2010 850 XP problems to date -FYI
ok, heres the list so far:
purchased it 2/22/2010 - paid $8944 and bought plow, and brush guards and front box and racks that added $1250 more.
1) on First trip a few weeks later Driver side A-Arm broke when trail riding, shortly after purchase, purchased a new one, no problems with that so far.
2) engine blowing blue smoke, after 5 months after owning, took it in for warranty they replaced the valve seals and associated gaskets. I also purchased the extended warranty for $1000 for fear of future problems. Thank god for that!!
3) two hours of riding later, after getting back from dealer that had it for 3 weeks, blue smoke again, this time worst. took it in again, this time they replaced the crankshaft(a bearing had spun), piston rings, and associated gaskets. keep in mind I now have 59 hours on it. it had the regular services performed on it twice by this point.
4) planning a big trip to WV to go riding, pulled it up on truck, power steering working fine, when I got there pulling it off truck the power steering wouldnt work, code 520230-31. rode all weekend without power steering, which sucked, but I drove 8 hours to get to WV, wasnt going home for that. took it in again, they said there was a computer update and they reflashed the atv, and it was working ok. this was in 8/2011. got it back about 10 days. WIll add that it also needed a gear selector switch, as it would say its in high, but was in low, low would say reverse, etc.
5) Got a good trip out of it in Sept 2011, although I did loose the belt. Figured that was going to happen so I had an extra.
6) fast forward to 1/2012. other than a few trips aroung the yard, no real riding. in the woods this weekend, easy terrain, four wheel drive quit working, code 520203-4. took it in again, now they say it is a coil in the active descent system that needs to be replaced. According to the mechanic its like a 8.5 hr job just to get it out, as the entire front end has to come apart, the power steering module has to be removed, transmission has to come out. the the ADC system has to come apart to replace coil. Should be under warranty again, but Im up to about 2 full months of down time to date, with about two weeks waiting. not good since I have 127 hours on it to date, and about 880 miles.
I think I have finally given up on polaris. I have been on 4 major trips with this thing and it has let me down everytime. Major letdowns too! Im 48 years old, take care of my toys, and dont drive like a raped ape. Suggestions, "Can-Am", "Kawasaki"? sad part is I will loose about $4k to get into a new one of some sort. Disappointing to say the least, not a rant, just facts.
purchased it 2/22/2010 - paid $8944 and bought plow, and brush guards and front box and racks that added $1250 more.
1) on First trip a few weeks later Driver side A-Arm broke when trail riding, shortly after purchase, purchased a new one, no problems with that so far.
2) engine blowing blue smoke, after 5 months after owning, took it in for warranty they replaced the valve seals and associated gaskets. I also purchased the extended warranty for $1000 for fear of future problems. Thank god for that!!
3) two hours of riding later, after getting back from dealer that had it for 3 weeks, blue smoke again, this time worst. took it in again, this time they replaced the crankshaft(a bearing had spun), piston rings, and associated gaskets. keep in mind I now have 59 hours on it. it had the regular services performed on it twice by this point.
4) planning a big trip to WV to go riding, pulled it up on truck, power steering working fine, when I got there pulling it off truck the power steering wouldnt work, code 520230-31. rode all weekend without power steering, which sucked, but I drove 8 hours to get to WV, wasnt going home for that. took it in again, they said there was a computer update and they reflashed the atv, and it was working ok. this was in 8/2011. got it back about 10 days. WIll add that it also needed a gear selector switch, as it would say its in high, but was in low, low would say reverse, etc.
5) Got a good trip out of it in Sept 2011, although I did loose the belt. Figured that was going to happen so I had an extra.
6) fast forward to 1/2012. other than a few trips aroung the yard, no real riding. in the woods this weekend, easy terrain, four wheel drive quit working, code 520203-4. took it in again, now they say it is a coil in the active descent system that needs to be replaced. According to the mechanic its like a 8.5 hr job just to get it out, as the entire front end has to come apart, the power steering module has to be removed, transmission has to come out. the the ADC system has to come apart to replace coil. Should be under warranty again, but Im up to about 2 full months of down time to date, with about two weeks waiting. not good since I have 127 hours on it to date, and about 880 miles.
I think I have finally given up on polaris. I have been on 4 major trips with this thing and it has let me down everytime. Major letdowns too! Im 48 years old, take care of my toys, and dont drive like a raped ape. Suggestions, "Can-Am", "Kawasaki"? sad part is I will loose about $4k to get into a new one of some sort. Disappointing to say the least, not a rant, just facts.
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What problems, Shui? Hopefully minor?
Pm sent...
but for all of you guys,
1 has a seized engine
2. bad starter and voltage reg from the factory.... caused all his electronics to fry... light bulbs, efi, eps, ecu...
but for all of you guys,
1 has a seized engine
2. bad starter and voltage reg from the factory.... caused all his electronics to fry... light bulbs, efi, eps, ecu...
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