Bob....BP405 is from New York. I would bet you he hasn't seen the size rocks you guys out west ride on. He probably rides on the interstate....and for that 14's and 26's will work just fine. Lets face it.....the more sidewall the less pinches.Just makes senseAnd I'm willing to bet you are wrong. The OEM wheel has a 4+2 offset, and if you look at all the pictures, you will see the wheel is still at least an inch from being seated on the hub. A 4+3 offset gives you one more inch to play with, but it would still be against the tie rod end when fully seated on the hub.Yeah this doesn't prove anything as far as the 570sp and 12" rims are concerned. It only proves that stock rims don't fit. I'm willing to bet a 4+3 offset on a 12" rim will work on a 570sp.
Also this whole hating on 14" rims is a lack of knowledge and buying into misinformation. First of all 14" rims cause no more or no less pinch flats the 12" rims its the tires that wrap them is where the problem lies. In the off-road community the general rule of thumb is you want a 2:1 ratio tire to rim diameter. If the tire to rim ratio deviates to much from that ratio the user will run into problems. I run 26" tires on 14" rims and it is absolutely the best combo. To crunch some numbers my 26" BH 2.0's measure 26.75" @5psi. So on my 14" rim the ratio is 1.91:1. Don't buy into the misinformation 14" rims work just as good as 12" because there are pros and cons to each and basically the rider needs to make an informed purchase based on his riding style, needs, and environment.
As for 26" tires on 14" wheels being the absolute best, that is crap as well. If you just ride smooth, hard packed trails, I'm sure you would be on the money with that. My alleged "lack of knowledge" cost me $330 worth of tires, riding the exact same trails I had ridden for years with 12" wheels and 26" tires. Never had a flat prior to the two pinch flats, and haven't had one since going back to 12" wheels. Anyone who rides rocks knows the truth about the 26/14 inch combo. It simply is not suited for the job.
They say a picture is worth a thousand words. You have been offered up some 7,000 words worth of proof in this thread that actually, visually, show problems, and yet you continue to deny that the problems are real. If you would kindly go buy yourself a 570 SP and show us all how you fit 12", 4+3 offset wheels on it, then I could eat a helping of crow. Since someone who does actually own a 570 SP showed us all that a 12" wheel doesn't fit, I think my crow dinner is safe.
570 12" whee570 wheels will NOT fit a 570SP. Thor's definitive answer.
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Bob....BP405 is from New York. I would bet you he hasn't seen the size rocks you guys out west ride on. He probably rides on the interstate....and for that 14's and 26's will work just fine. Lets face it.....the more sidewall the less pinches.Just makes sense
Yeah, I know, and I shouldn't get my panties all wadded up over this topic. :saeek: I just hate seeing wrong info put out there to people who might not know any better. I hope that sharing my experiences will maybe help someone else avoid the expensive problems that many of us have experienced, or at least understand the possible issues.
Add me to the list of guy's who've gotten a pinch flat with 14" wheels and 26" tires. I'll be going up to 27" or 28" tires.
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I have not had a pinch flat yet on my 26"x14" but I will be ordering 28" soon for my 570sp. and there are rocks in New York lol we don't all ride on the highway. We also have some trees even in the city.
Okay I bought 26" BigHorn tires wheel kit for my Grizzly I sold last year. Won't for my 570 based on different bolt pattern .The are the 12". So if I find a new 12" wheel kit to have the tires mounted on, will they fit my 570 (EPS) non SP Camo model (2016).
Thanks for your help!
R'
Thanks for your help!
R'
Put them on a 12" wheel with a 4+3 offset and they will be perfect for your 570. I'm assuming they are 26-9-12 and 26-12-12 sizes.
Yes your right Bobx2. My wheel size is 12x7 per the dealer and the tires sizes front and rear like you said. Okay next question, any recommendations on this replacement wheel kit? What hot, cool, lighter and stronger these days?
Thanks,
R'
Thanks,
R'
personally I don't waste my time looking for wheels. they really do very little to affect the riding. All they are is lipstick on a pig for me. I'm not out there to look cool, I'm out there to have a good time so stock wheels are fine with me. besides, that's money that can be spent on other accessories that actually help riding. like a winch, hand guards, rack extensions, extra gas tanks, etc..
Good points. Even this tire guy said pretty much the same while comparing ITP, STI etc. basically getting the same output. In sure some will differ but seems like that's the consenus. Okay great thanks for the info y'all!!
R'
R'
How can you with this)))))))))))))))))))))) 2007 Hawkeye 300 17HP of gutless gloryAll they are is lipstick on a pig for me. I'm not out there to look cool,
Does the 4+3 offset push your tires outside the fender Bob? Delta steels will replace mine stockers.Put them on a 12" wheel with a 4+3 offset and they will be perfect for your 570. I'm assuming they are 26-9-12 and 26-12-12 sizes.
I haven't noticed any difference in the amount of crap hitting me when riding. Depending on the angle you look at it, they may look pushed way out, or it may look virtually the same. They don't move things far enough out to be worried about fender flares.Does the 4+3 offset push your tires outside the fender Bob? Delta steels will replace mine stockers.Put them on a 12" wheel with a 4+3 offset and they will be perfect for your 570. I'm assuming they are 26-9-12 and 26-12-12 sizes.
Thanks BobI haven't noticed any difference in the amount of crap hitting me when riding. Depending on the angle you look at it, they may look pushed way out, or it may look virtually the same. They don't move things far enough out to be worried about fender flares.Does the 4+3 offset push your tires outside the fender Bob? Delta steels will replace mine stockers.Put them on a 12" wheel with a 4+3 offset and they will be perfect for your 570. I'm assuming they are 26-9-12 and 26-12-12 sizes.
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Corbett 1973 is correct. To dumb it down a bit, which I often need, I'll say this. A pinch flat is hitting something hard and fast enough to squish the tread against the wheel and break the bead. It hurts worse to pinch a small amount of skin than a large amount. The same goes for rubber. No matter the tire size, a 14" rim will always have 1" less rubber all the way around than than a 12" tire. If the math doesn't seem to make sense, let's compare 26" tires on both. A 12" wheel has 7" of rubber above and 7" of rubber below the wheel. A 14" wheel has 6" of rubber above and 6" of rubber below the wheel. On smaller tires (24"-26") this is considerable. The larger the tire, percentage wise, the less prone you are to pinch flats. But it will always be more of an issue when comparing larger wheel diameter to smaller wheel diameter.
Sorry guys. My Blackberry screen (I know, old school) often shows the first page of a post as being the last. I was 2 years behind on my reply. Par for the course.
Just curious if it makes a difference with bias ply vs radial tires. Is one more or less prone to pinch flats?
Do you know if you can switch from 8/10” to 9/11” on a Sportsman 570 SP while keeping Factory 14” wheels? Or will the wheel offset be an issue? Having trouble finding 26x8x14 and 26x10x14 tires.Yeah this doesn't prove anything as far as the 570sp and 12" rims are concerned. It only proves that stock rims don't fit. I'm willing to bet a 4+3 offset on a 12" rim will work on a 570sp.
Also this whole hating on 14" rims is a lack of knowledge and buying into misinformation. First of all 14" rims cause no more or no less pinch flats the 12" rims its the tires that wrap them is where the problem lies. In the off-road community the general rule of thumb is you want a 2:1 ratio tire to rim diameter. If the tire to rim ratio deviates to much from that ratio the user will run into problems. I run 26" tires on 14" rims and it is absolutely the best combo. To crunch some numbers my 26" BH 2.0's measure 26.75" @5psi. So on my 14" rim the ratio is 1.91:1. Don't buy into the misinformation 14" rims work just as good as 12" because there are pros and cons to each and basically the rider needs to make an informed purchase based on his riding style, needs, and environment.
Sprotsman will know, he did on his 570.Do you know if you can switch from 8/10” to 9/11” on a Sportsman 570 SP while keeping Factory 14” wheels? Or will the wheel offset be an issue? Having trouble finding 26x8x14 and 26x10x14 tires.
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