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ATV Camso T4S track kit question..

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I just received my ordered set of new Winter tracks and will be installing them in the next few days when it warms up a bit more (-34 F. degrees overnight and early AM and - 20 or lower still right now at 2PM)..
I did note that the track system came with a full set of new lug nuts which are a type of flanged nut and not the tapered lug nuts like that most if not all ATV aluminum type wheels use.
Each track sprocket drive hub has 2 sets of Polaris bolt pattern holes, which gives a choice of either using a straight drilled hole pattern with the flanged straight lug nuts or a drilled tapered set of bolt holes holes to reuse the tapered nuts - so I guess there is a choice here of 2 methods to secure them to the bike hubs (Sportsman)..
Which type of lug nut and hole pattern would anyone consider would be the strongest to use?
The drive sprocket flanges themselves are probably close to 3/8" - 1/2" thick and using the flat included lug nuts would take full advantage that thickness - whereas the tapered hole bolt pattern would obviously not have a much meat to secure the flange to the bike's hubs, but would obviously locate the flange more accurately using the proper tapered lug nuts previously from my aluminum wheels.
Given the choice which would you use and why?
I didn't see any notes in the instruction manual listing a preference of why.. but I'll go back and look a second time just in case I missed it!
Thx - Randy
 
#2 ·
Randy, I would call the manufacturer and get the correct answer to your question than trusting any advice from the internet.
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These T4S tracks aren't meant for a potential combination of ATV/UTV usage - only ATV - but in saying that, I do figure the flanged lug nuts are probably meant to be used but the fact that it doesn't state that anywhere in the documentation does have me wondering, thus my question..
I guess I just don't understand why the hubs would be drilled with both types of holes (straight and tapered).
I do understand that non-Polaris track systems come with sprocket hubs drilled often for many other ATV brand and model configurations, thus the varied spacings and types of mounting holes - but Polaris applications are unusual in that they only mount to Polaris models - so why even the choice between straight and tapered lug nuts if the flanged ones are the intended ones to be used by the manufacturer?
I will send an question to ATVTracks.net as suggested asking for their input.
Thanks for the responses!
I'm realizing now just how nice it would be to have a lift for my bike to help mount these up - crawling around on a cold cement floor isn't as much fun or nearly as tolerable as it would have been 40 years ago!! :)
Randy
 
#8 ·
I know - but if the rest of the track unit is beefed up I would bet the sprockets would also be thicker or heavier duty as well to withstand the extra abuse a heavier and bigger machine would put on them, after all the sprocket and it's associated bearings and all do carry and transfer the weight and torque of whatever unit they are attached to..
You are correct though, that the design is pretty much the same overall.
 
#9 · (Edited)
I did get a reply back from ATV Tracks and they say the straight holes are 10 mm and the ones I should be using with my installation - the tapered holes are actually 12mm (hard to see they were larger diameter laying down on the floor for me) and meant for use in attaching to UTV applications which obviously have the larger wheel studs - and I was wrong since YES those same T4S tracks can also be used for some smaller and lighter UTV's as well - they are just not as hefty as others like the 4S1 series they make for bigger UTV's specifically..
 
#10 ·
Post some pictures up when you get them mounted.
 
#12 · (Edited)
On and working - still need some small 'attack angle' and alignment adjustments and such.
My son couldn't wait to try them out on some deeper snow he found (we don't have nearly as much so far this Winter as normal) and said they are 'unstoppable'.. and although a lot taller overall the entire bike is very stable and easy to ride - which surprised him.
I haven't even had it out for a jag myself - it's been too damn cold for this old guy so far (-34 F this morning!)
 

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To any who have used and installed tracks - did you find that they sort of stretched somewhat after the first while.. as in got loosened up from their original tension adjustment setting that came they from the factory with?
Camso in any of the manuals don't make any comment(s) regarding having to recheck the tension of the tracks after some break in usage, (although it somewhat makes sense) that the tracks themselves could stretch out a bit once they get run for a while..
As delivered the tracks actually seemed to be a lot stiffer and somewhat tighter than I expected and took a bit of power just to get the bike moving - maybe also from the rubber having a bit of 'set' around the wheels and all.
I'm just surprised Camso as I said, doesn't alert users to watch for this and be wary of them possibly needing some tightening up adjustment though..
I'd be curious if this is an on-going trait that the tracks have to be re-tensioned depending on the weather conditions (like Summer or Winter usage) that others have found necessary.. or maybe after once stretched out they remain fairly consistent.
I'd appreciate any comments or experiences - thusly..
Thanks - Randy