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Nope never been on welfare or EI ! why did we have to support the workers? I guess you are for socialism than! so you can sit around do nothing and get paid!!!!!
The real question is why we have to support the farmers and oil companies. The big farms are run by big business and the oil companies, we really don't need to answer that one, so a little support for the workers of companies that make bad products because of bad management, seems all right considering the rich get govt money all the time. Not to mention the economic impact a major auto company going bankrupt would have on millions of Americans. Prairieforce, You are just another right wing know it all wanna be, who probably was born with a silver spoon in your mouth.
That statement makes no sense... Where does your food come from? Are you expecting it for free??
 

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Nope never been on welfare or EI ! why did we have to support the workers? I guess you are for socialism than! so you can sit around do nothing and get paid!!!!!
The real question is why we have to support the farmers and oil companies. The big farms are run by big business and the oil companies, we really don't need to answer that one, so a little support for the workers of companies that make bad products because of bad management, seems all right considering the rich get govt money all the time. Not to mention the economic impact a major auto company going bankrupt would have on millions of Americans. Prairieforce, You are just another right wing know it all wanna be, who probably was born with a silver spoon in your mouth.
That statement makes no sense... Where does your food come from? Are you expecting it for free??
I think all govt handouts should be stopped!!


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I agree, they also need to quit forcing ethanol on us. The gas is horrible now, especially winter gas. Give us the choice.
 

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Nope never been on welfare or EI ! why did we have to support the workers? I guess you are for socialism than! so you can sit around do nothing and get paid!!!!!
The real question is why we have to support the farmers and oil companies. The big farms are run by big business and the oil companies, we really don't need to answer that one, so a little support for the workers of companies that make bad products because of bad management, seems all right considering the rich get govt money all the time. Not to mention the economic impact a major auto company going bankrupt would have on millions of Americans. Prairieforce, You are just another right wing know it all wanna be, who probably was born with a silver spoon in your mouth.
That statement makes no sense... Where does your food come from? Are you expecting it for free??
I know where my food comes from, and expect nothing free, but prairieforce seems to think that if you work for the auto business or associate companies, all you do is sit around and get paid, which is so far from the truth it's ridiculous. My point was that our govt gives so many breaks to people that shouldn't get them, that giving a break to the car companies was just a drop in the bucket, as far as what they hand out total. Oil gets money to explore with, which means we pay some of their cost of doing business, and they make billions every year. Farms get huge subsidies to not grow certain crops so that it props up the price of certain foods, by eliminating competition, and also get tax breaks for a piece of property as small as 10 acres, that whether being farmed or not, will qualify them for a farm tax break. My point was that GM workers who worked for a mismanaged company, should be able to get a little help once, since other industries get help all the time. GM and Chrysler's problems had nothing to do with the workers, their problems had to deal with making products that no one was buying. Ford downsized and came out profitable, while the other two didn't. So why punish the workers for stupid management practices. All unions in the last 15 years have taken massive concessions to keep their businesses profitable. So the statement he said makes no sense, makes perfect sense to some people. I also would like to see no govt handouts period, but I doubt that will happen
 

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The real question is why we have to support the farmers and oil companies. The big farms are run by big business and the oil companies, we really don't need to answer that one, so a little support for the workers of companies that make bad products because of bad management, seems all right considering the rich get govt money all the time. Not to mention the economic impact a major auto company going bankrupt would have on millions of Americans. Prairieforce, You are just another right wing know it all wanna be, who probably was born with a silver spoon in your mouth.
That statement makes no sense... Where does your food come from? Are you expecting it for free??
I know where my food comes from, and expect nothing free, but prairieforce seems to think that if you work for the auto business or associate companies, all you do is sit around and get paid, which is so far from the truth it's ridiculous. My point was that our govt gives so many breaks to people that shouldn't get them, that giving a break to the car companies was just a drop in the bucket, as far as what they hand out total. Oil gets money to explore with, which means we pay some of their cost of doing business, and they make billions every year. Farms get huge subsidies to not grow certain crops so that it props up the price of certain foods, by eliminating competition, and also get tax breaks for a piece of property as small as 10 acres, that whether being farmed or not, will qualify them for a farm tax break. My point was that GM workers who worked for a mismanaged company, should be able to get a little help once, since other industries get help all the time. GM and Chrysler's problems had nothing to do with the workers, their problems had to deal with making products that no one was buying. Ford downsized and came out profitable, while the other two didn't. So why punish the workers for stupid management practices. All unions in the last 15 years have taken massive concessions to keep their businesses profitable. So the statement he said makes no sense, makes perfect sense to some people. I also would like to see no govt handouts period, but I doubt that will happen
Unions r nothing but a bunch of cowards that hide behind the unions people to try and run the business there way!! I think more companies should do what hostess did and just file bankruptcy to show the cowards that they don't run the company


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That statement makes no sense... Where does your food come from? Are you expecting it for free??
I know where my food comes from, and expect nothing free, but prairieforce seems to think that if you work for the auto business or associate companies, all you do is sit around and get paid, which is so far from the truth it's ridiculous. My point was that our govt gives so many breaks to people that shouldn't get them, that giving a break to the car companies was just a drop in the bucket, as far as what they hand out total. Oil gets money to explore with, which means we pay some of their cost of doing business, and they make billions every year. Farms get huge subsidies to not grow certain crops so that it props up the price of certain foods, by eliminating competition, and also get tax breaks for a piece of property as small as 10 acres, that whether being farmed or not, will qualify them for a farm tax break. My point was that GM workers who worked for a mismanaged company, should be able to get a little help once, since other industries get help all the time. GM and Chrysler's problems had nothing to do with the workers, their problems had to deal with making products that no one was buying. Ford downsized and came out profitable, while the other two didn't. So why punish the workers for stupid management practices. All unions in the last 15 years have taken massive concessions to keep their businesses profitable. So the statement he said makes no sense, makes perfect sense to some people. I also would like to see no govt handouts period, but I doubt that will happen
Unions r nothing but a bunch of cowards that hide behind the unions people to try and run the business there way!! I think more companies should do what hostess did and just file bankruptcy to show the cowards that they don't run the company


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You're the real coward, since you obviously know nothing about what you're talking about, and use an internet forum to promote you're hatred for people you have no contact with. Take your mouth to a union meeting and you will see how cowardly these people are.
 

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I know where my food comes from, and expect nothing free, but prairieforce seems to think that if you work for the auto business or associate companies, all you do is sit around and get paid, which is so far from the truth it's ridiculous. My point was that our govt gives so many breaks to people that shouldn't get them, that giving a break to the car companies was just a drop in the bucket, as far as what they hand out total. Oil gets money to explore with, which means we pay some of their cost of doing business, and they make billions every year. Farms get huge subsidies to not grow certain crops so that it props up the price of certain foods, by eliminating competition, and also get tax breaks for a piece of property as small as 10 acres, that whether being farmed or not, will qualify them for a farm tax break. My point was that GM workers who worked for a mismanaged company, should be able to get a little help once, since other industries get help all the time. GM and Chrysler's problems had nothing to do with the workers, their problems had to deal with making products that no one was buying. Ford downsized and came out profitable, while the other two didn't. So why punish the workers for stupid management practices. All unions in the last 15 years have taken massive concessions to keep their businesses profitable. So the statement he said makes no sense, makes perfect sense to some people. I also would like to see no govt handouts period, but I doubt that will happen
Unions r nothing but a bunch of cowards that hide behind the unions people to try and run the business there way!! I think more companies should do what hostess did and just file bankruptcy to show the cowards that they don't run the company


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You're the real coward, since you obviously know nothing about what you're talking about, and use an internet forum to promote you're hatred for people you have no contact with. Take your mouth to a union meeting and you will see how cowardly these people are.
Ahh. The BIG union worker comes to try and defend them!!


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Unions r nothing but a bunch of cowards that hide behind the unions people to try and run the business there way!! I think more companies should do what hostess did and just file bankruptcy to show the cowards that they don't run the company


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You're the real coward, since you obviously know nothing about what you're talking about, and use an internet forum to promote you're hatred for people you have no contact with. Take your mouth to a union meeting and you will see how cowardly these people are.
Ahh. The BIG union worker comes to try and defend them!!


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And the LITTLE envious wannabe, hides behind his keyboard and shows his ignorance once again. I don't have to defend them, they will be and are capable of doing that themselves, especially against small people like yourself, who probably has trouble spelling UNION, and is completely oblivious as to what they are and why they are. You are right about one thing though, I was a union worker for 38 years and saw how we benefitted our company the whole time I worked for them, and sure as hell aren't going to stand back and see something like you, belittle the people who make up the unionized workforce, and have built this country. But it's all ok, there are a lot of people like you who would rather sit back and complain, and take the scraps the companies offer you, rather than do something about it, and that's what I call COWARDLY. I rest my case
 

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Unions, our Government and Big Business are all corrupt and need to be dealt with accordingly. You really can't blame all the people on Welfare as the govt. has promoted these programs and have kept people on the welfare roles so they can bus them to the polls. Unions are nothing more than organized welfare as they all vote Democrat to protect the group that protects them. Remember, we live in a Republic that was founded on the Constitution. Most think we live in a Democracy which is not true and a true Democracy is as dangerous as a dictatorship as the majority rules. I don't know about your view of the people around us but I sure don't want the Majority making the decisions as most of them are uneducated, uninformed and not capable of making decision on their own! Republicans and Democrats both suck and neither are defenders of our Constitution. We the people are the true defenders and we may have to do that in the near future. Greed is destroying this country from the top down so next time your at the polls make a decision based on fact, not fiction. As for this idiot wanting a free ATV, get a job and buy your own.
 

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Unions, our Government and Big Business are all corrupt and need to be dealt with accordingly. You really can't blame all the people on Welfare as the govt. has promoted these programs and have kept people on the welfare roles so they can bus them to the polls. Unions are nothing more than organized welfare as they all vote Democrat to protect the group that protects them. Remember, we live in a Republic that was founded on the Constitution. Most think we live in a Democracy which is not true and a true Democracy is as dangerous as a dictatorship as the majority rules. I don't know about your view of the people around us but I sure don't want the Majority making the decisions as most of them are uneducated, uninformed and not capable of making decision on their own! Republicans and Democrats both suck and neither are defenders of our Constitution. We the people are the true defenders and we may have to do that in the near future. Greed is destroying this country from the top down so next time your at the polls make a decision based on fact, not fiction. As for this idiot wanting a free ATV, get a job and buy your own.
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We the people are the true defenders and we may have to do that in the near future.
And just who are you going to defend us from, and you want a society where majority doesn't rule. If that's the case why have elections at all, just give all seats to the richest most powerful individuals, or companies. It seems people like you, and I'm not downgrading you at all, want to read the constitution and your interpretation is the only one allowed, kind of like some people interpret the Bible. Your views above promote a dictatorship, not a republic or a democracy. Guess what, I am also one of we the people, and it seems to me we need protection from you. You hate this country and system so bad, why don't you move somewhere else. Also, it doesn't say anywhere in the constitution that a person has to be educated and informed to make decisions, so there you go again, taking equality out of the equation so it can be a system just for you. Some of our EDUCATED legislators are the biggest dumb Azz's that were ever born, and maybe a little less education and more common sense is really the correct way for us to go. You figure out a way to keep the rich out of Washington, and then this country will change for the better for all
 

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Unions, our Government and Big Business are all corrupt and need to be dealt with accordingly. You really can't blame all the people on Welfare as the govt. has promoted these programs and have kept people on the welfare roles so they can bus them to the polls. Unions are nothing more than organized welfare as they all vote Democrat to protect the group that protects them. Remember, we live in a Republic that was founded on the Constitution. Most think we live in a Democracy which is not true and a true Democracy is as dangerous as a dictatorship as the majority rules. I don't know about your view of the people around us but I sure don't want the Majority making the decisions as most of them are uneducated, uninformed and not capable of making decision on their own! Republicans and Democrats both suck and neither are defenders of our Constitution. We the people are the true defenders and we may have to do that in the near future. Greed is destroying this country from the top down so next time your at the polls make a decision based on fact, not fiction. As for this idiot wanting a free ATV, get a job and buy your own.
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We the people are the true defenders and we may have to do that in the near future.
And just who are you going to defend us from, and you want a society where majority doesn't rule. If that's the case why have elections at all, just give all seats to the richest most powerful individuals, or companies. It seems people like you, and I'm not downgrading you at all, want to read the constitution and your interpretation is the only one allowed, kind of like some people interpret the Bible. Your views above promote a dictatorship, not a republic or a democracy. Guess what, I am also one of we the people, and it seems to me we need protection from you. You hate this country and system so bad, why don't you move somewhere else. Also, it doesn't say anywhere in the constitution that a person has to be educated and informed to make decisions, so there you go again, taking equality out of the equation so it can be a system just for you. Some of our EDUCATED legislators are the biggest dumb Azz's that were ever born, and maybe a little less education and more common sense is really the correct way for us to go. You figure out a way to keep the rich out of Washington, and then this country will change for the better for all
Did you even read my words? You might want to educate yourself on our Constitution and the reason we are a Republic. My views are a polar opposite of a dictatorship and obviously you can't comprehend words. In a Republic we elect individuals that are supposed to uphold the Constitution of the United States at whatever cost, even against the majority as it has been proven that a "majority" can be a real group of dumb A$$es. The majority can make bad decisions and that is why we don't vote to make decisions of law, we vote to elect people to govern and uphold our Rules of Law and our Constitution and if they don't we should vote them out. Our biggest issue is we are now electing people that make a mockery of our constitution and the principles this country was founded on because the "majority" of the voter base is completely uninformed, want something for nothing, are bussed to the polls and told what button to push and believe the Constituion is no longer valid, have never read it or even know what it is! That's ok, you have fallen into their trap of keep fighting among ourselves so the politicians, lobbyists, unions, the rich and corporations can destroy our country without us noticing. Too many people think that just because the Constitution and Bill of Rights were written 200 years ago they no longer apply and they are just as valid today as there were back then. You are watching our current govt, corporations and idiot voters destroy this country. It's too bad we don't get good choices at election time but when you choose to elect the same morons back into office you get what you deserve. I say vote them all out and start over. Anyone that doesn't believe in the Constitution of the USA should be deported and any elected official that doesn't defend it should be hanged for treason. A final thought, so you think that if the majority votes to kill everyone over 50 that should be ok? That is an exaggerated example but maybe one you can understand. That is what I am saying the majority always shouldn't be making the decisions and that is why we have the Constituion. It is also why we need to uphold our Constitution with our last breath because it was so well written it doesn't leave much room for interpretation and it is the rule of law in my book.
 

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Unions, our Government and Big Business are all corrupt and need to be dealt with accordingly. You really can't blame all the people on Welfare as the govt. has promoted these programs and have kept people on the welfare roles so they can bus them to the polls. Unions are nothing more than organized welfare as they all vote Democrat to protect the group that protects them. Remember, we live in a Republic that was founded on the Constitution. Most think we live in a Democracy which is not true and a true Democracy is as dangerous as a dictatorship as the majority rules. I don't know about your view of the people around us but I sure don't want the Majority making the decisions as most of them are uneducated, uninformed and not capable of making decision on their own! Republicans and Democrats both suck and neither are defenders of our Constitution. We the people are the true defenders and we may have to do that in the near future. Greed is destroying this country from the top down so next time your at the polls make a decision based on fact, not fiction. As for this idiot wanting a free ATV, get a job and buy your own.
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We the people are the true defenders and we may have to do that in the near future.
And just who are you going to defend us from, and you want a society where majority doesn't rule. If that's the case why have elections at all, just give all seats to the richest most powerful individuals, or companies. It seems people like you, and I'm not downgrading you at all, want to read the constitution and your interpretation is the only one allowed, kind of like some people interpret the Bible. Your views above promote a dictatorship, not a republic or a democracy. Guess what, I am also one of we the people, and it seems to me we need protection from you. You hate this country and system so bad, why don't you move somewhere else. Also, it doesn't say anywhere in the constitution that a person has to be educated and informed to make decisions, so there you go again, taking equality out of the equation so it can be a system just for you. Some of our EDUCATED legislators are the biggest dumb Azz's that were ever born, and maybe a little less education and more common sense is really the correct way for us to go. You figure out a way to keep the rich out of Washington, and then this country will change for the better for all
Did you even read my words? You might want to educate yourself on our Constitution and the reason we are a Republic. My views are a polar opposite of a dictatorship and obviously you can't comprehend words. In a Republic we elect individuals that are supposed to uphold the Constitution of the United States at whatever cost, even against the majority as it has been proven that a "majority" can be a real group of dumb A$$es. The majority can make bad decisions and that is why we don't vote to make decisions of law, we vote to elect people to govern and uphold our Rules of Law and our Constitution and if they don't we should vote them out. Our biggest issue is we are now electing people that make a mockery of our constitution and the principles this country was founded on because the "majority" of the voter base is completely uninformed, want something for nothing, are bussed to the polls and told what button to push and believe the Constituion is no longer valid, have never read it or even know what it is! That's ok, you have fallen into their trap of keep fighting among ourselves so the politicians, lobbyists, unions, the rich and corporations can destroy our country without us noticing. Too many people think that just because the Constitution and Bill of Rights were written 200 years ago they no longer apply and they are just as valid today as there were back then. You are watching our current govt, corporations and idiot voters destroy this country. It's too bad we don't get good choices at election time but when you choose to elect the same morons back into office you get what you deserve. I say vote them all out and start over. Anyone that doesn't believe in the Constitution of the USA should be deported and any elected official that doesn't defend it should be hanged for treason. A final thought, so you think that if the majority votes to kill everyone over 50 that should be ok? That is an exaggerated example but maybe one you can understand. That is what I am saying the majority always shouldn't be making the decisions and that is why we have the Constituion. It is also why we need to uphold our Constitution with our last breath because it was so well written it doesn't leave much room for interpretation and it is the rule of law in my book.
Oh yeah, I read your words perfectly, and refrained from calling you a sore right wing loser in my first response to you, but now I see that you are all for government your way, just not for it if it goes against your way. Typical far right logic. So who do you want to vote out first? Like I don't know the answer to that question already. And who do you propose to make these decisions since majority rule is out as far as you are concerned. Also the constitution is an amendable document, and has been amended, throughout the years when parts of it no longer serve the needs of the people it was written for. The founding fathers were smart men, but were not psychics, and could not see into the future as to write a document that would be as logical and practical 300 years down the road as it was at the time it was written. You're example of votes to kill everyone over 50 is the exact kind of reply I would expect from a person of your political persuasion. Change occurs whether you like it or not, and it will happen in this country, without exception. Laws are made everyday by majority rule, and that is the way it's always been and should be. The two party system is a check and balance system, so that one party of elected officials, will not be able to make all the laws and all the rules. The supreme court is a majority rule system, and lets face it, their decisions are often very partisan and not based solely on the constitution. The constitution is a document that can be improved upon, or be interpreted in more than one way . Remember this, if our founding fathers lived today, you would consider them uneducated, and not worthy of writing a constitution, because let's face it, they were farmers and businessmen, not rocket scientists, the exact kind of people you called dumb asses in you last post. The difference was they were endowed with a vast amount of common sense, much like the common people of today, or dumb asses as you stated
 

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You're the real coward, since you obviously know nothing about what you're talking about, and use an internet forum to promote you're hatred for people you have no contact with. Take your mouth to a union meeting and you will see how cowardly these people are.
Ahh. The BIG union worker comes to try and defend them!!


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And the LITTLE envious wannabe, hides behind his keyboard and shows his ignorance once again. I don't have to defend them, they will be and are capable of doing that themselves, especially against small people like yourself, who probably has trouble spelling UNION, and is completely oblivious as to what they are and why they are. You are right about one thing though, I was a union worker for 38 years and saw how we benefitted our company the whole time I worked for them, and sure as hell aren't going to stand back and see something like you, belittle the people who make up the unionized workforce, and have built this country. But it's all ok, there are a lot of people like you who would rather sit back and complain, and take the scraps the companies offer you, rather than do something about it, and that's what I call COWARDLY. I rest my case
Say as u wish I told u my view if u don't like it I don't care!! Belittle who ever u want the folks that like unions r the ones that r in the union!


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And the LITTLE envious wannabe, hides behind his keyboard and shows his ignorance once again. I don't have to defend them, they will be and are capable of doing that themselves, especially against small people like yourself, who probably has trouble spelling UNION, and is completely oblivious as to what they are and why they are. You are right about one thing though, I was a union worker for 38 years and saw how we benefitted our company the whole time I worked for them, and sure as hell aren't going to stand back and see something like you, belittle the people who make up the unionized workforce, and have built this country. But it's all ok, there are a lot of people like you who would rather sit back and complain, and take the scraps the companies offer you, rather than do something about it, and that's what I call COWARDLY. I rest my case
Say as u wish I told u my view if u don't like it I don't care!! Belittle who ever u want the folks that like unions r the ones that r in the union!


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And the people who don't like unions are people just like you who have no clue as to what a union is or what they stand for
 

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That's Me!! :hump: :D

Just remember, with your incessant union posts, that sometimes..... "Adults" have to "Agree to Disagree"!!

Or is it.... "That's not my Job" ?
My incessant union posts were not initiated by me, but by someone spouting bs and my replies were to them. Your pic is just humiliating to all people who don't engage in humor at the expense of any disabled person. But if you must, it's your right. So feel free to show the world how much class you have. So there I've agreed to disagree with you. Happy now?
 
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