When you put the switch into awd. It's always in awd. So no need to split wires or anything of that nature. The wheels still will not engage until the rear tires slip. The part that actually engages the front tires is mechanical not electronic. The electric clutches simply transfer power from the output shafts of the diff. To the cv. Shafts. So if you wanted the front to stay locked in you would have to change the ratio of the front tires in comparison to the rears. For example by putting front tires on that are 1/5 larger then stock. Or in turn rear tires that are 1/5 th smaller. When all is said and done the rear tire has to slip 1/5th of a turn b4 the front will do any work. So if the front is always turning 1:5th slower then the rear then the front diff. Will always be engaged.I've probably seen someone talk about this over the years but can't remember. Anyone ever put in an electrical bypass, possibly using a relay and toggle switch to deactivate, to engage the front diff fully when they wanted it to stay in AWD? Wouldn't you just splice your 12V into front diff engagement wire? I have no need for this but maybe someone does.
The simple answer is....NOPE!Can you put a rear diff in place of the front and have it in permanent 4x4?
When you put the switch into awd. It's always in awd. So no need to split wires or anything of that nature. The wheels still will not engage until the rear tires slip. The part that actually engages the front tires is mechanical not electronic. The electric clutches simply transfer power from the output shafts of the diff. To the cv. Shafts. So if you wanted the front to stay locked in you would have to change the ratio of the front tires in comparison to the rears. For example by putting front tires on that are 1/5 larger then stock. Or in turn rear tires that are 1/5 th smaller. When all is said and done the rear tire has to slip 1/5th of a turn b4 the front will do any work. So if the front is always turning 1:5th slower then the rear then the front diff. Will always be engaged.I've probably seen someone talk about this over the years but can't remember. Anyone ever put in an electrical bypass, possibly using a relay and toggle switch to deactivate, to engage the front diff fully when they wanted it to stay in AWD? Wouldn't you just splice your 12V into front diff engagement wire? I have no need for this but maybe someone does.
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Yes the answer is nope !! HahaThe simple answer is....NOPE!Can you put a rear diff in place of the front and have it in permanent 4x4?
I understand now. You've corrected a long misunderstanding I've had about the Hilliard. I see this in Service Manual as well.The 12V is always there as soon as u turn in the awd switch anyway. All the 12v. Does is turn on the clutches and they are always on when the awd switch is on but u will receive no output from the diff until the ratio of the rear tire is faster then the fronts. It's not a sensor that turns it on and off like in a automobile. So if u " hot wire " the front diff it'll make no difference it is the same as turning on the awd. Switch that is already there... my apologies if I am miss understanding your question.
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Your welcome. Glad I could helpI understand now. You've corrected a long misunderstanding I've had about the Hilliard. I see this in Service Manual as well.The 12V is always there as soon as u turn in the awd switch anyway. All the 12v. Does is turn on the clutches and they are always on when the awd switch is on but u will receive no output from the diff until the ratio of the rear tire is faster then the fronts. It's not a sensor that turns it on and off like in a automobile. So if u " hot wire " the front diff it'll make no difference it is the same as turning on the awd. Switch that is already there... my apologies if I am miss understanding your question.
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Continuing on would damage the drivetrain and very likely severely so. Hence it would not work. The machine would quickly become undrivable.the tires will slip before the drive train binds up. even on dry pavement. it's just not a good idea. VERY hard on the machine and tires.
I know a lot of guys that have welded the diffs on their trucks and besides it being a pain in the ass to steer, the only problem they have is the tires chirping around corners. You're going to have more wear and tear on the machine, but I doubt it would be enough in a short period of time to make it un-drivable (save the horrible steering).Continuing on would damage the drivetrain and very likely severely so. Hence it would not work. The machine would quickly become undrivable.the tires will slip before the drive train binds up. even on dry pavement. it's just not a good idea. VERY hard on the machine and tires.
Huh, I find that surprising. I've been in 4wd trucks(nonlock diff) when the drivers forgot it was in 4wd and we were on dirt. The trucks started to buck and could not be shifted out of 4wd without going backwards for a ways to " unwind " the 4wd and thus relieve the tension on the drive system.I know a lot of guys that have welded the diffs on their trucks and besides it being a pain in the ass to steer, the only problem they have is the tires chirping around corners. You're going to have more wear and tear on the machine, but I doubt it would be enough in a short period of time to make it un-drivable (save the horrible steering).Continuing on would damage the drivetrain and very likely severely so. Hence it would not work. The machine would quickly become undrivable.the tires will slip before the drive train binds up. even on dry pavement. it's just not a good idea. VERY hard on the machine and tires.
It would be a good way to ruin your day riding if you ask me.