Hahaha, true, true.. This forum has sophisticated tastes. All great products for sure but none of which are necessary by any means to thoroughly use, enjoy, or maintain your machine. I ride all day with no EPS, and I've never felt my arms getting tired or sore during the ride. Though it is real impressive how easily you can steer an EPS machine- they're not kidding when they say you can steer it with your pinky.This forum is obsessed with a few things, EPS,Bighorns,HID lights and GURU bumpers..