Slightly higher compression and a different head design I think? Should be making more hp, but who knows, wouldn't be a huge increase if it was. But you will feel it. Eric at EHS racing dynoed one,said they make about what the old ones did with a pipe and programmer stock.
My take on the grizzly 700 vs my 570
Finally got a chance to go riding today with my friends who own 2 grizzly 700s. I was excited to go out with them because I've been itching to ride one to compare it to my 570.
Some people might argue the Yamaha is a big bore while the 570 is a mid bore so why even compare the 2? Simple answer, I feel the 570 does almost everything the grizzly 700 can do better for a cheaper price tag.
My hat is off to Polaris when it comes to the ride quality, handling, power, AWD system and over all value you get with the sportsman 570. I raced both my friends every time with similar results I would pull 3 to 4 quad lengths on them to 50 mph. Considering the displacement factor that is extremely impressive.
The pros for the Grizzly is I felt the engine was much smoother running, it also had a more premium feel to the transmission when shifting into gear and Yamaha includes 4 wheel disk where Polaris skimps with 3. while I have no issues with my breaking it is nice to have 4 wheel disk all the way around. I hear the Yamaha is very reliable also. Time will tell how my 570 holds up.
That is my comparison between the 2. I'm sure I'll get flamed by someone who is a grizzly fan boy but I feel I was being very fair in my comparison.
Some people might argue the Yamaha is a big bore while the 570 is a mid bore so why even compare the 2? Simple answer, I feel the 570 does almost everything the grizzly 700 can do better for a cheaper price tag.
My hat is off to Polaris when it comes to the ride quality, handling, power, AWD system and over all value you get with the sportsman 570. I raced both my friends every time with similar results I would pull 3 to 4 quad lengths on them to 50 mph. Considering the displacement factor that is extremely impressive.
The pros for the Grizzly is I felt the engine was much smoother running, it also had a more premium feel to the transmission when shifting into gear and Yamaha includes 4 wheel disk where Polaris skimps with 3. while I have no issues with my breaking it is nice to have 4 wheel disk all the way around. I hear the Yamaha is very reliable also. Time will tell how my 570 holds up.
That is my comparison between the 2. I'm sure I'll get flamed by someone who is a grizzly fan boy but I feel I was being very fair in my comparison.
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I own a 2014 grizz and the changes for 2014 made it far more stable and less tipsy of a machine. the eps settings are better and it has more snap than the older grizzlies. if I were to compare it to my sportsman 500 the grizz would definitely run away from the 500. the sportsman rides better, is more plush and definitely easier to ride for a novice rider with the awd system and single lever braking. I can push my grizz harder than I could ever push my sportsman 850 touring and sportsman 500, while the touring rode nice and was fast, on tight trails it was just to big and heavy. I have 1300 miles on my grizz and absolutely love it. I've changed the fluids and washed it.....that's it. by 1300 miles my 850 touring had already been in the shop for ball joints, bushings and wheel bearings. do I believe the grizzly is the best machine out there....no. it has its flaws, but for what I wanted I felt it was the best balance of reliability and performance. Polaris builds great machines, I have 3 right now. but they definitely could learn from Yamaha on reliability.....just as Yamaha could learn from Polaris on innovation.
Most accurate comment on this thread IMO!..... but they definitely could learn from Yamaha on reliability.....just as Yamaha could learn from Polaris on innovation.
those grizzlys are complete junk there ugly as sin Polaris 850 xp all the way
Yep very true,Most accurate comment on this thread IMO!..... but they definitely could learn from Yamaha on reliability.....just as Yamaha could learn from Polaris on innovation.
Honda has been taking notes, ALL their newly released ATV's look like Polaris copycats.
those grizzlys are complete junk there ugly as sin Polaris 850 xp all the way
opcorn:IHI Outwheeling has said from the start that he didn't know what year grizzlies he had raced,,,,,but whats the difference, you shouldn't be beating ANY YEAR 700 with a 570 and that's the end of that storybe sure to tell what yr grizz your racing to keep this an honest comparison as they've made major upgrades for 14'....just like many players in the game make upgrades to their machines.For those of you who are skeptical go out and race one. I raced a 2011 and a 2013 grizzly 700 and beat them both. I was unimpressed about the power output for a 700 motor. I do not know about the new 2014 or 2015 model as I haven't gotten a chance to race one. People aren't giving the little 570 enough credit it's a strong motor for it's size. People forget to easy it was originally designed to produce good torque to pull around UTV's almost twice the weight of a ATV. I will try and get a video up this Sunday when I go out with my friends.
Quote Look out Geerig its bitch hill Don't worry IHI exclaims Quote:I'm a good rider, but in this case Geerig I will follow you since I know you can make it and all I can do is complain about my 550 that wont make it with me driving....but,,,,,I'm a good rider Yeah right IHIYour spot on with your analogy, it's just like the mud packers, you get the young nieve guys that think big motors win races, you got the old guys that understand you build a lesser hp motor that you can keep the throttle on the floor board and never lift, that will win races.Maybe true to an extent but put two riders with similar skills together in a trail race and I'll bet it would be dang close.. It would take one hell of a rider on a gizz to completely run away from a 570.. Racing on the trails has almost everything to do with the rider.. Allow me to embarass myself by explaining what I mean.. My main ridding buddy and I have been heading to northern ontario every year for some time now.. Its deep woods hard core riding and I'm no amature.. But I am consistently out classed by my friend who until this year has always been on a lesser machine than mine.. The greatest example is me on my 2010 850 touring and him on his 2011 Cat XC450.. (70hp and about 1100lbs loaded with rider vs 33hp and about 800lbs loaded with rider) One of our favorite things to do is to set up and ride against eachother as absolutely hard as we can.. I could reel him in pretty easy when we would come to any kind of a flat section.. But in the twists - turns - rocks and hills he is just plain better at it than I am.. Picking his lines, looking ahead and being fearless enough to push beyond what I am capable of doing.. I don't believe the grizz torque vs the 570 is enough to leave the 570 in the dust on a hard trail run.. That said, if someone posts a vid to the contrary.. I suppose I'll have to eat these words.. ha!It may not have the output power you expect for a straght line race. Then race through the trails where you have to handle and have that mid range torque and with the weight difference its a total package....your gonna lose.
Same with rider skills, I'm a good rider, Geerig is and has been better with any of the toys we've shared, mopeds, crotch rockets, atv's, etc....he's blessed in that way as other folks are. So honestly we could trade machines and as worthless as my 550xp is power and speed wise, I bet he would still kick my ass if I was on his new grizz that completely walks all over my quad. Hell, 4 or 5 yrs ago we did a big group snowmobile ride, I had him on one of my sleds, definitely wasn't the fastest, not close, to anybody in the group, but the dude can ride and other than long straights the big bore sleds walked him, once you got into technical sections, "nitro chicken" as we nicknamed him, was looking for holes to pass the big sleds because the riders weren't very good.
Skill is ALOT, hp second....have all the hp in the world but if ya cant make it work, it's wasted.
Did a lil drag race again tonight with Geerig, he's done some clutch work, exhaust work, I've done some clutch work, k&n filter, slip on exhaust...he just pulls away like nothing from the get go and continues to keep pulling the longer we go.
Vandal...how old are you?Quote Look out Geerig its bitch hill Don't worry IHI exclaims Quote:I'm a good rider, but in this case Geerig I will follow you since I know you can make it and all I can do is complain about my 550 that wont make it with me driving....but,,,,,I'm a good rider Yeah right IHIYour spot on with your analogy, it's just like the mud packers, you get the young nieve guys that think big motors win races, you got the old guys that understand you build a lesser hp motor that you can keep the throttle on the floor board and never lift, that will win races.Maybe true to an extent but put two riders with similar skills together in a trail race and I'll bet it would be dang close.. It would take one hell of a rider on a gizz to completely run away from a 570.. Racing on the trails has almost everything to do with the rider.. Allow me to embarass myself by explaining what I mean.. My main ridding buddy and I have been heading to northern ontario every year for some time now.. Its deep woods hard core riding and I'm no amature.. But I am consistently out classed by my friend who until this year has always been on a lesser machine than mine.. The greatest example is me on my 2010 850 touring and him on his 2011 Cat XC450.. (70hp and about 1100lbs loaded with rider vs 33hp and about 800lbs loaded with rider) One of our favorite things to do is to set up and ride against eachother as absolutely hard as we can.. I could reel him in pretty easy when we would come to any kind of a flat section.. But in the twists - turns - rocks and hills he is just plain better at it than I am.. Picking his lines, looking ahead and being fearless enough to push beyond what I am capable of doing.. I don't believe the grizz torque vs the 570 is enough to leave the 570 in the dust on a hard trail run.. That said, if someone posts a vid to the contrary.. I suppose I'll have to eat these words.. ha!
Same with rider skills, I'm a good rider, Geerig is and has been better with any of the toys we've shared, mopeds, crotch rockets, atv's, etc....he's blessed in that way as other folks are. So honestly we could trade machines and as worthless as my 550xp is power and speed wise, I bet he would still kick my ass if I was on his new grizz that completely walks all over my quad. Hell, 4 or 5 yrs ago we did a big group snowmobile ride, I had him on one of my sleds, definitely wasn't the fastest, not close, to anybody in the group, but the dude can ride and other than long straights the big bore sleds walked him, once you got into technical sections, "nitro chicken" as we nicknamed him, was looking for holes to pass the big sleds because the riders weren't very good.
Skill is ALOT, hp second....have all the hp in the world but if ya cant make it work, it's wasted.
Did a lil drag race again tonight with Geerig, he's done some clutch work, exhaust work, I've done some clutch work, k&n filter, slip on exhaust...he just pulls away like nothing from the get go and continues to keep pulling the longer we go.
Just got back from a group ride in Tennessee. My buddy with his 570 and a Grizz 700 went toe to toe a few times. The 700 was never able to outrun the 570. They both climbed the same stuff, and they both pulled each other out. We all had a good time.
lol, well that was a fun pissing contest. are we all empty now gentlemen? lol.
Everyone has their own opinions and their own justifications for spending their money on what they spent it on. At the end of the day, we're all here to have fun, and enjoy our machines. If Polaris wasn't around, Yamaha would be my first choice. But when it comes down to it, In my honest opinion, Polaris offers more bang for the buck. and that's how I prefer to spend my money.
Everyone has their own opinions and their own justifications for spending their money on what they spent it on. At the end of the day, we're all here to have fun, and enjoy our machines. If Polaris wasn't around, Yamaha would be my first choice. But when it comes down to it, In my honest opinion, Polaris offers more bang for the buck. and that's how I prefer to spend my money.
Interesting, what year was the 700?Just got back from a group ride in Tennessee. My buddy with his 570 and a Grizz 700 went toe to toe a few times. The 700 was never able to outrun the 570. They both climbed the same stuff, and they both pulled each other out. We all had a good time.
Ya, as I don't live on a farm, an atv is just a toy for me. As such,I'm don't think I could justify a quad if my only option was Yams prices. It's also why I don't own a sled.lol, well that was a fun pissing contest. are we all empty now gentlemen? lol.
Everyone has their own opinions and their own justifications for spending their money on what they spent it on. At the end of the day, we're all here to have fun, and enjoy our machines. If Polaris wasn't around, Yamaha would be my first choice. But when it comes down to it, In my honest opinion, Polaris offers more bang for the buck. and that's how I prefer to spend my money.
And I really couldn't care less who is faster.if I wanted speed, I'd get a dirt bike.
Game, set, and match, as far as I'm concerned. I've owned only one quad in my life, but if there is one thing I've learned over the last several months of researching, it's that quote. It was bang for the buck only, that led me to buy my present quad. Let the great minds of each of these 2 companies get together and build a machine, and I'd be all over it. But then, with my luck, it'd be a $10K 500.:motz:Polaris builds great machines, I have 3 right now. but they definitely could learn from Yamaha on reliability.....just as Yamaha could learn from Polaris on innovation.
The Japanese quads are reliable because they dont participate in the power wars. If they added more power, would they be as reliable.Game, set, and match, as far as I'm concerned. I've owned only one quad in my life, but if there is one thing I've learned over the last several months of researching, it's that quote. It was bang for the buck only, that led me to buy my present quad. Let the great minds of each of these 2 companies get together and build a machine, and I'd be all over it. But then, with my luck, it'd be a $10K 500.:motz:Polaris builds great machines, I have 3 right now. but they definitely could learn from Yamaha on reliability.....just as Yamaha could learn from Polaris on innovation.
Well, innovation and reliability go in opposite directions - will never have the best of both. Need a happy medium - that's where Polaris is.Polaris builds great machines, I have 3 right now. but they definitely could learn from Yamaha on reliability.....just as Yamaha could learn from Polaris on innovation.
Aye! Another Timmins person on this forum! I’m looking at my options for a new quad also, thanks for sharing. I was set on a Grizzly, but hard to ignore the value you get with the sportsman. KQ is a strong contender too.If my wife didn't stop the sale, I would of had a KQ750 right now. I took it for a test drive and it rode nice with good power. I like the idea of how its belt drive works, the smoothness of the engine and the rear wet brakes. In my riding group, Can-am and Polaris are king, but alot of guys ride Suzuki and Yamaha. Most bikes are not too old, like 2006+. One guy has an Arctic Cat Mud Pro, a few guys ride 10+ year old Honda Foreman and no one drives Kawasaki. In the area, two dealerships sell ATV's are near "dealer cost" all the time. Borques in Cochrane for Polaris, Guiho for Suzuki. I think that is the only reason you see alot of King Quads around here. The Kawasaki dealership here is in a small corner of a massive Can-Am/Honda dealership. Back in January I had all the papers signed, everything ready to go and the day we went to go finalize everything she said no. May came around with some good rebates on Polaris and we ended up getting my 550.
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