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The list of which models get too hot on your leg is quite long. I still stand with my statement about poor engineering. Come on now, I am talking about relocating the exhaust pipe to keep from hurting the operator. A teenager could come up with a better design.

I made the "use more gas statement" based on the fact my friend and I have ridden together 4 times now and every time his blinkie is blinking(so he says) when I still have a dot or two. I carry 5 gallons. I thought he said he carried the same. Maybe the outies carry less fuel. Or maybe he has to use 4X4 much more than I do to go the same places. (poor traction LOL) If the Outie carries a lot less fuel than I stand corrected.

He definitely got something with his Outie I never had. A BURN MARK ON HIS LEG!

It has been said here more than once, the dealer is very important which ever brand you buy and I have to agree with that. I have a Polaris dealer 2 miles from my house and one 20 miles away and yet I drove 100 miles to buy mine. I drove the 100 miles when I bought my second one as well.

Which is better. The people who ride the best know they ride the best. And then there are all of the other riders and brands.
 

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Don't say anything bad about the outlander people get mad at you on hear . Yes the frames suck even on the new G2 my friends is cracked in 3 spots even after the fix and one is where there is no fix for it yet so he had to weld a cut in half steal pipe over the crack . Should he have to for 14,000$ my xp frame is just fine but I do need a new rim after today dam rock under the snow ! Still a great day !
 

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The dealer that I have always went through carries Can-Am Polaris and Yamaha. I talked to multiple salesmen there and they also felt that the Polaris was the best buy for the price. They also said that the # of sales for the sportsman's were substantially larger than Yamaha and Can-Am. Out of the 10 units they sold on Saturday i think 6 or 7 of them were Polaris (XPs, rangers and razors).
Can-Am defiantly makes a very nice and capable atv, but is it worth the extra expense? There is no correct answer across the board. Comes down to rider preference.
 

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My brother had a 2006 ca outlander and #1, had ground clearance issues #2, the frame got a twist in it and had to take it to a autobody shop to bend the frame straight and #3 one of the front strut springs broke. Needless to say he got rid of it.:disappointed:
 

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I have owned both loved them both I would buy a Polaris XP again in a heartbeat or a Scrambler I went with Canam because they were cheaper for what I wanted. lets get something pointed out A non XT Outlander is not 14 grand There @ the same money as a stock 850XP now if your talking the XT package and yes its more expensive well because you get bumpers and a winch and such The dealer I bought my 500 Max from had a new 1000 Outlander non XT for under 9 grand and thats the same as an XP up here in VT so please compare apples to apples as far as pricing goes. my buddy bought a new 800 max yes it gets hot he bought some boots that go higher up on his leg problem solved the G2 doesn't get hot on you they fixed the problem. I am on both this forum and a Canam forum I enjoy both. Bottom line both are awesome machines both have the potential of breaking and to be honest none should for the money we all work hard to make. Dealer is huge if you have a crappy dealer if and when you have an issue it can soar you on the brand.
So my 2 cents drive both go with your gut and what feels good for you and enjoy, your going to read negative about both I love both bikes to be honest to me it comes down to what I want to pay and at the time my 1000 Rene was cheaper then a Scrambler and my 500 Max xt was cheaper then a 550 Touring and I looked long and hard in the area to find the Polaris I wanted. And when Im ready for a new machine someday I'll look at both again
 

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The dealer that I have always went through carries Can-Am Polaris and Yamaha. I talked to multiple salesmen there and they also felt that the Polaris was the best buy for the price. They also said that the # of sales for the sportsman's were substantially larger than Yamaha and Can-Am. Out of the 10 units they sold on Saturday i think 6 or 7 of them were Polaris (XPs, rangers and razors).
Can-Am defiantly makes a very nice and capable atv, but is it worth the extra expense? There is no correct answer across the board. Comes down to rider preference.
Try out the Grizz 700 as well my buddy that bought the 800 Max had an 07 Grizz with over 4000 miles on it no issues loved the bike but Yamaha doesnt sell a 2 up so he went with the Canam looked at the 850 touring liked it but the dealer was a jerk so he went with the Outlander. Grizz may be older tech but they run strong and ride really well and have great PS
 

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I have owned and ridden all three machine 800 rene ( 2012 )... sold, 1000 outlander xmr ( 2012 )... sold, and I just pruchased a 2013 Scrambler 850. As far as power goes the 1000 is a beast, it is just incredible the power that comes in a fourwheeler these days. But the machine is enormous and heavy, I mean back breaking heavy, especially in the mud, stuck, in the woods by yourself heavy. I really enjoyed the 800 renegade it was very fast and comfortable to ride, good power also. With all that the Scrambler I just bought is by far the best all around machine I have owned. Very nimble excellent power and the suspension is absolutley killer. Coming from a motocross background, any fourwheeler that you can ride the whoops at 45 to 50 mph and your kidneys are not bleeding when you are done riding takes the cake as far as I am concerned. Definitely not doing that on a 1000 xmr, and the rengade was good but it will still beat you to death. Of course nothing will compare to my Cr 500, but as far as fourwheelers go I am very impressed with the scrambler. If deep mud is your thing - 1000 xmr spend the money, its done - wheels, tires, winch... done. If you are planning on trials, mud, and just all around good riding go with the polaris.
 

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I have owned and ridden all three machine 800 rene ( 2012 )... sold, 1000 outlander xmr ( 2012 )... sold, and I just pruchased a 2013 Scrambler 850. As far as power goes the 1000 is a beast, it is just incredible the power that comes in a fourwheeler these days. But the machine is enormous and heavy, I mean back breaking heavy, especially in the mud, stuck, in the woods by yourself heavy. I really enjoyed the 800 renegade it was very fast and comfortable to ride, good power also. With all that the Scrambler I just bought is by far the best all around machine I have owned. Very nimble excellent power and the suspension is absolutley killer. Coming from a motocross background, any fourwheeler that you can ride the whoops at 45 to 50 mph and your kidneys are not bleeding when you are done riding takes the cake as far as I am concerned. Definitely not doing that on a 1000 xmr, and the rengade was good but it will still beat you to death. Of course nothing will compare to my Cr 500, but as far as fourwheelers go I am very impressed with the scrambler. If deep mud is your thing - 1000 xmr spend the money, its done - wheels, tires, winch... done. If you are planning on trials, mud, and just all around good riding go with the polaris.


*cough* 450's *cough*

To me can am has the nicer styling. Even the XP looks 80's compared to the 2013 canned hams.

To me the 2x4, 3x4, THEN 4x4 is pretty gay on the can am too.
 

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Ride both and see what u like better. Only machine I would look at buying right now (it would be my 3rd one in 14 months) would be the outy 1000xt. My biggest hang up with it is the size and weight of it. Around 900lbs wet and ready to ride is a lot of machine
 

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I have owned and ridden all three machine 800 rene ( 2012 )... sold, 1000 outlander xmr ( 2012 )... sold, and I just pruchased a 2013 Scrambler 850. As far as power goes the 1000 is a beast, it is just incredible the power that comes in a fourwheeler these days. But the machine is enormous and heavy, I mean back breaking heavy, especially in the mud, stuck, in the woods by yourself heavy. I really enjoyed the 800 renegade it was very fast and comfortable to ride, good power also. With all that the Scrambler I just bought is by far the best all around machine I have owned. Very nimble excellent power and the suspension is absolutley killer. Coming from a motocross background, any fourwheeler that you can ride the whoops at 45 to 50 mph and your kidneys are not bleeding when you are done riding takes the cake as far as I am concerned. Definitely not doing that on a 1000 xmr, and the rengade was good but it will still beat you to death. Of course nothing will compare to my Cr 500, but as far as fourwheelers go I am very impressed with the scrambler. If deep mud is your thing - 1000 xmr spend the money, its done - wheels, tires, winch... done. If you are planning on trials, mud, and just all around good riding go with the polaris.


*cough* 450's *cough*

To me can am has the nicer styling. Even the XP looks 80's compared to the 2013 canned hams.

To me the 2x4, 3x4, THEN 4x4 is pretty gay on the can am too.
I am not sure what the *cough thing is about, are you trying to compare the 450 to a 500 2 stroke????? Although I am new to the whole " Forum thing " is tht what this is...
 

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you guys might get pissed at me for this one but this is the ride that broke my 850s frame, then a few days later (riding my 800) I found my dads bike broke in the same spot. His is in the dealer waiting for a polaris rep, and mine is having a frame swaped (my money) and is going to be traded in on proble a new outty, I know you guys say the frame brakes, ya well can-am will give me 7 years for that frame to brake so I am happy with that. Polaris might as well of gave me the middle finger for this. Hey Im fine with it its life things happen this video is about hard as I ride (on the frame) as it gets. My dad is in front of me on his 850 eps. I understand things happen but he is tired of everytime we try going riding our polaris bikes are broke down. I am not saying can-am will be any better but I am willing to try, if I have a lot of problems with my can-am I am going to stop buying atvs and I will build my self one from the ground up haha.
 

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also this, I am not brand bashing polaris are nice bikes and I think I seen the made the scramblers frame stronger in that spot, actully it would not take much to do the work to make it stronger, but my dad told me he would help me pay for a new 1000 outty if I get at lest all Bs (pulled it off was hard tho with really bad dislecsia for spelling and writing). I did buy my 850 on my own and everything on it, and if somthing brakes it comes out of my pocket. I am 205 pounds and 6'2 so not like im to small for the bike. I think if I can work hard enough to buy the bike I should be able to ride a bike this size. He sai he would help pay about 1500 bucks for the grades and early B-day presint.

well If you guys are happy with your bikes thats all that matter, I do love my 850 (I think its one of the nicest bike I have ever seen) just ride on and have fun :)
 

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That does look like that would be awfuly hard on any frame, however im a firm believer the frame should be the last thing to break.. maybe bend an a-arm or ruin a tie rod but not the frame..
 

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I have a 2010 850XP...I have been (1) of the lucky ones. 2000 miles and all I have had to replace is every single bushing...I went with some built by a guy on this forum rather than the OEMs. this year we will see if they hold up. Last fall I bought the wife a 500 kingquad and a few weeks ago took advantage of the elka $995 sale (again, that I learned about on this forum). If I start having problems with the XP my next bike will be a kingquad 750 with the elka stage 1s...suzuki quietly goes along with little fanfare making a very reliable bike that is the sportiest "utility" offered. She rides it hard, jumping all the time, so far no issues. If you stop by their forum, it is pretty quiet...again no power steering, bushing, frame, oil in the filter, exhaust issues...people just buy them and ride them. Now...with the stock shocks they are harsh...with the elkas they are like an xp and then some. right now they have 5 years no interest...what's not to like?
 

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Ride ergos are no comparison to the xp nor the 750's power straight up fact can't beat the engin placement of the xp . My old grizzly had no issues but would I go back to it because of bushings that take a few hours to fix ? Hell no
 

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I have been riding my kingquad 100x harder then I ever have my 850 and its never let me down. There is one guy on the can-am fourm that said he rides harder then that and hes 300+ pounds on his renagade. The old polaris frames where amazingly strong but these new 850s I cant say so much for. I love my 800 touring but the 850s........ there fun when they run
 

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I've never, EVER ridden with a king quad that wasn't over heating when the entire rest of the group had zero issues. I'm not a fan of Suzuki at all for some reason. I love my scrambler so far, I think I would still take it over the 1000 gade I was about to pick up, it has enough power for ANY situation, and it's smooth and stable as it could be.
 

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see if your happy thats all that matter, and ive never had a hot light come on in the 5 years of owning it 10K and running strong :)
 

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That's good to hear, never many other issues but those damn things sure like the water holes for cooling down up here. I have a buddy with a done up 750 king I'd like to go riding with, haven't had my scrambler next to one, all I know is the power isn't as good as the brutes, canned hams and Polaris 850s.
 
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