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I called my dealer on Friday and asked if they had an ACE.
They did, so I went to have a look - but it was almost closing time, and it was raining outside, so I could not ride it.
The boss-man said I could ride it when it was not raining though.

I went back today, and at first the boss-man was not around, and a different boss-man told me that he doesn't want people to test ride it, because it gets dirty and then people want $2000 off the sticker price.
I changed his mind by showing him a wad of Franklins and telling him if I didn't buy it, I would wash it for him, but that if I felt that it had enough power for me, I WOULD buy it TODAY.
So he moved it outside while I went and got my helmet.

I drove it around on mostly dry pavement, so I can't really say anything about its handling characteristics, but I did something that I guess not many people do on test rides:
I loaded it onto my trailer, and then unloaded it, disconnected the trailer, and loaded it into the back of my truck. With the dealer's permission, of course.

My trailer has a 60" wide deck on it, and the ACE's wheel base is 61.5". So it sits up on the rails a little, which are diagonally out about 8 inches from the deck.
With the ACE loaded, there's a bit more pressure on the rails than I like, but I can see about reinforcing them. Once I do that it should be fine.
My truck is a 2013 GMC Sierra 2500 long bed. The ACE fit in there with the tailgate closed, with room to spare front to back and side to side.

Anyway, so then we got down to business.

The first thing I did was beat him up a little about a recent phone call I had made to the dealership. Here's what happened there:
I called and said I wanted to buy some 26x9x12 Maxxis BigHorns to replace the ones that came stock on my 2010 RZR S.
They looked it up and told me that I was wrong about the size, that the correct size was 27x9x12, and that the price was $259 per tire.
I told him I was sure that the correct size was 26", and he insisted that the computer was telling him it was 27".
I politely bade him good day, and terminated the call.

So we looked it up together. His parts fiche showed an original part number, superceded by a new one.
The original number called for a 26x9x12, and the superceded number called for a 27x9x12.
Obviously Polaris had made a mistake, and it wasn't that guy's fault, but I felt he could have handled it better.
I didn't beat him up too badly, and he didn't exactly apologize. We just came to the conclusion about what had happened together.
I think the conversation set the stage for the rest of the transaction.
He knew I wasn't to be trifled with, and I knew that he was willing to explore things and get to the bottom line.

The next thing I did was build an accessory list, so that he knew the whole deal when we negotiated.
$129.99 - Canvas Roof
$179.99 - Rear Poly Windshield
$99.99 - Sport Windshield
$399.99 - 2500lb Winch
$59.99 - Rear View Mirror
$69.99 - Trail Bag
$939.94 Total

A few words about these items:
Canvas Roof:
I have the Polaris canvas roof on my RZR. It is tough as nails. It stood up to all kinds of abuse - rubbing against tree bark, getting poked and scraped by branches, getting flapped around in the wind, etc.
What finally did some real damage is when I rolled my RZR. And the damage is just a few tattered spots on the 4 corners where it wraps around the roll cage. It is cosmetic damage only, and it is still waterproof after 2 years.

Rear Poly Windshield:
I have the rear flexible plastic one on the RZR, and it's difficult to clean because it flexes. Also, I have poked sticks through it in two places.
I have been impressed with how scratch resistant Polaris's poly front windshield is, and I expect this one to be equivalent.

Sport Windshield:
I did not go with the full poly front windshield because it cannot be opened.
I really appreciate being able to adjust the wind flow in my RZR. It makes a huge difference in how warm/cool I want to be without stopping to change my clothing.
But they do not have this option yet for the ACE, so I bought the cheap small windshield as a windbreak for now.
I will investigate whether I could make the adjustable one fit on the ACE, if I cut it down a little.

2500 LB Winch:
I didn't want to pay the extra $129 for the 3500 LB winch, and I feel that the 2500 will do for my usage.
I can't mount a Warn or Viper on there without buying a mounting bracket. Polaris does not sell just the bracket right now.
An aftermarket bracket I found for $75 is ugly and sticks down too far.
The Polaris bracket looks tough enough and looks more streamlined to fit the lines of the vehicle.
The dealer let me use his computer to look this up, and I decided that my best bet was to buy the Polaris one.

Rear View Mirror and Trail Bag:
I know that these items are overpriced and that I could do better, price wise, to rig something up for this.
But convenience costs money, and I felt it was worth $130 to have these items which are a perfect fit without spending hours trying to rig something up.
The rear storage box is a different story. They want $250 for the lock-n-ride box, and I'd rather pay $35 for a Rubbermaid ActionPacker and bolt it down back there.


Then he drew up the rest of the line items:
$100 - Documentation Fee
$60 - License Fee
$375 - Destination Fee (Freight Charge)
$275 - Machine Setup (Uncrating, bolting crap on there)
$7499 - 2013 Sportsman ACE
$8309 Total

I told him I didn't want to pay the freight, setup, and doc fees.
He was insistent on the setup and doc fees, but he gave up the freight.
I told him that if he wanted to seal this deal, he had to give a little more. I asked for 10% off the accessories, and also asked him to dismount the tires from the RZR wheels I brought along, and mount up the new tires I brought along.
He agreed to these things. That saved me $94 on the accessories, and $36 in tire mounting labor.
The one I bought also had a Poly Roof on it ($199) that they did not charge me extra for.
So effectively, I got a $669 break on the overall price.

The total before sales tax was $8780.19.
The sales tax was $751.83.
The out the door price was $9532.02.

I paid $2340 cash down payment, and financed the rest at 3.99% for 36 months.
I intend to pay it off in 6 months, but I decided against the 6-month 0% interest option, just in case.

Now, I know some people will tell me I paid too much, I didn't beat them down enough, or whatever.
But the bottom line is, it's a brand new model, they have not been hanging onto it for months, it's not last year's model, and it's a small town dealer that has to work hard to make ends meet.
I felt that it was worth a little give on my part to keep the relationship intact, because the next closest dealer is a big throng of slimeballs and idiots.
So I feel that this was a reasonably good deal, for me.
 

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Sweet. Can't wait to read a real review. What is your main purpose for it? Trail? Hunt? Work?
 

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I bought it for recreation.
I like my RZR for comfort on long rides, with the cab, steering wheel, foot pedals and roll cage.
But there are a lot of trails around here that I can't fit my RZR S on, and I don't really care for the 50" RZR specs.
Also, I dislike the fact that my RZR throws mud onto my left shoulder and leg. I don't want to add width by putting wider fender flares on it.
I wanted a more central seating position.

Keeping in mind that I have only driven it for 5 minutes on pavement, here is my initial quick-review on the ACE:
I feel that it is a little sluggish on the low end, but gains power as it gains speed.
It will probably bog down in high gear on the long hill climbs.
But the low range is a tractor gear. It would probably climb Mt Everest in low gear.
You're not going to win any drag races with it, and you're not going to climb any sand dunes with it.
I weigh about 215 lbs right now. Maybe if I lost 25 or so, it would have more get up and go.
But it's adequate if you're looking for a relaxing cruise, and you're not a speed demon.
 

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Now, I know some people will tell me I paid too much, I didn't beat them down enough, or whatever.
But the bottom line is, it's a brand new model, they have not been hanging onto it for months, it's not last year's model, and it's a small town dealer that has to work hard to make ends meet.
I felt that it was worth a little give on my part to keep the relationship intact, because the next closest dealer is a big throng of slimeballs and idiots.
So I feel that this was a reasonably good deal, for me.
I agree with not beating the dealer up, keeping the relationship good, and keeping your money in or near your home town.

I have tried to convince some of my friends of that, but they just see wow Abernathy's is $400-500 cheaper.
The service after the sale at the big dealerships is Shit as a general rule.

For example, when I bought my 850 from my local dealer, the third time I rode it, I noticed the front right tire wobbling...After I moved the wheel and tire to the other side in the interest of ruling out bearing issues...I was convinced that the wheel was warped slightly.

I called the dealer, he told me bring it down there and let him take it for a quick ride...I did and he agreed. He opened up the crate of a brand new LE, and gave me the wheel and swapped the tire for me.
He said, "Tim, I will work with Polaris to get a new wheel, but that can take a few weeks, so just take this one, and I will work it back through Polaris.

Good People!

I hope you enjoy the new addition!
 

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Nice!
I think that's how one of the guys at my dealer would handle it.
The other main boss type, I'm not sure. He's got kind of a "at the mercy of Polaris" victim thing going on. Hopefully we'll never find out how well he handles problems like that.
 

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Hopefully not! Post up some pictures, and give us more reviews after some riding.
 

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Great story! I plan to get one, but mainly for my son, I like the protection it provides while still being able to keep up with the grown ups.
 

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OK, you wanted photos, you got em.
Polaris lock and ride box for $250? NO THANKS.
Plano sportman's trunk for $25? Yeah, that will work.
The box is bolted to the engine access panel in the bed.
The front of the access panel has big plastic tabs.
The back is held down by plastic pegs into rubber grommets, and I didn't trust it to stay put so I added a couple of lag screws.

Also included below is my sales order, in case anyone's interested.
Then the lowest point on the rig in terms of water getting places you don't want it to is the CVT air output, circled.
More pics to follow.
 

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More Photos:

Polaris has handily included an access panel in the rear bed which gets you into the airbox and throttle body area.

Up front, there is an access panel at the bottom of the storage area that gets you into the radiator cap, overflow bottle, and wiring access.

There is a terminal block up front for handy access to direct battery power.

If you remove the black plastic panel over the dash, you get behind the instrument cluster for additional electrical access. I cut a hole in one side to gain access to the 12V socket wires. I vampired them and added a 2nd 12V socket right next to the 1st one in the dash.
 

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More Photos:

CVT is on the left under the fender, don't have to remove a lot of crap to access it like the RZR.

Photos of the rear axles, tranny, and engine.
 

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Battery: Under the seat.
Fuse Box: Under the large removable panel behind the seat.

The air intakes for the engine and CVT are on the sides just above the rear bed.
They are about 40" off the ground with stock wheels/tires.
The front diff and tranny have breather hoses that go up to about the level of the underside of the rear bed.
 

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awesome keep us posted how you like it. I have tinkered with the idea for one for my wife, she really likes the look of it and the price is right...enjoy
 

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The setup fee is ridiculous. It took 30 minutes to uncrate and assemble it. So is their labor rate $550/hour?
Over on rzrforums.net, there are lots of horror stories about destroyed engines and other breakdowns because the dealer didn't do a good prep. I don't know exactly what is involved with dealer prep, so I can't defend them. But I am open to the possibility that they go over the machine carefully to make sure the throttle body connections are tight, the grease zirks are full, the nuts and bolts are tight, etc.

It probably is an area of padding/markup that they put on there to give wiggle room during negotiation, but I choose to believe that prep does take more than 30 minutes.
 

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I don't think that price is too bad for all the add-ons your having them do. Smart to do them all at once right away and be done with it, I'm doing the same thing on my new Ram. Enjoy the new toy!
 

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Yeah, I suck at waiting and all of my loose cash went into the down payment, so I rolled the accessories into the financing.
There will be more stuff I have to buy later of course.

Sometimes I am not sure if the wife really is OK with my buying new toys, or is just holding her temper on it. But this time, she gave me a pretty clear indication that she really is OK with it:
 

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LOL that's funny. Is your wife like mine and think that the headlights make it look "angry" ? She thinks her 300 looks like its angry and mean, had to reassure her there is nothing "mean" about her 300 sportsman LOL
 

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She doesn't think things are angry, exactly, but she sees faces everywhere.
 
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