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so i got a stop ride for my scrambler yesterday saying the gas tank can catch fire when refueling it said they dont have a fix yet so i guess i have a new yard decoration
this is from polaris POLARIS HAS DETERMINED THAT, IF FUEL SPILLS WHILE REFUELING SOME MODEL YEAR 2020-2023 SPORTSMAN 1000 S AND SCRAMBLER 1000 S ATVS, FUEL CAN IGNITE BY ELECTROSTATIC DISCHARGE OUTSIDE THE FUEL TANK, POSING A FIRE HAZARD AND RISK OF SERIOUS INJURY.
 

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so i got a stop ride for my scrambler yesterday saying the gas tank can catch fire when refueling it said they dont have a fix yet so i guess i have a new yard decoration
this is from polaris POLARIS HAS DETERMINED THAT, IF FUEL SPILLS WHILE REFUELING SOME MODEL YEAR 2020-2023 SPORTSMAN 1000 S AND SCRAMBLER 1000 S ATVS, FUEL CAN IGNITE BY ELECTROSTATIC DISCHARGE OUTSIDE THE FUEL TANK, POSING A FIRE HAZARD AND RISK OF SERIOUS INJURY.
Hmmm……electrostatic discharge from plastic is a risk in many cases, that’s why they say when filling a plastic gas can at the pump you should place the container on the ground. That Polaris warning wouldn’t stop me from riding, would make me more cautious, and consider my own fix, like adding a grounding strap to the tank and plastics. —Just my crazy opinion-but I’m to old to sit around waiting for their fix, times running out on some of us! 🤣
 

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yeah i agree i have heard about the sleds having the same thing and was waiting for this letter lol i have rode it all summer and the one for the sleds were out in early summer
 

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Just don’t spill gas when refueling. Problem fixed and you’ll save yourself a boat load of cash with gas prices now a days.
Hmm... Sounds like a new angle for the left to ban gasoline vehicles altogether by declaring gasoline to be an inherently dangerous substance.
this is a very good theory hmmm makes sense
 

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I think...... it's the FULL AUTOMATIC gas nozzle ther after?


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If you touch the fuel tank with one hand while touching a metal part of the "pump" nozzle, it equalizes the electrical potential between the two and no spark or discharge will occur. If you fill using a portable plastic fuel container, no discharge will occur. NOTICE: it is also recommended that you touch the body of your car or truck before fueling to REDUCE the possibility of a static discharge from the pump nozzle to the vehicle. Also note; the vehicle is insulated from ground by the rubber of the tires. Chances of a static discharge from the pump nozzle or your body to a part of the vehicle is phenomenal unless you prepare and use care to cause it to happen. Just touching the vehicle while standing on the ground pretty much eliminates the possibility. If you insist on creating the possibility, cruise up to the fuel pump, do not dismount and use rubber gloves when removing the dispensing nozzle from the pump and the fuel tank cap. Now while sitting on the un-grounded vehicle, remove your rubber gloves and without touching any of the plastic components with your skin, hold the nozzle so it does not touch the fuel tank and start the fuel flowing. Now while the fuel is flowing and you are touching the metal part of the pump nozzle, move the metal part of the nozzle to the plastic part of the fuel tank. If done properly, you might cause a static discharge.

Also note: the STOP RIDE notice from Polaris indicates that "if fuel spills during refueling" it may ignite from static discharge. There is a greater chance of the fuel igniting while refueling without spilling if the engine is left running!

If the safetycrats had their way there would be a warning on parachutes on the danger of the parachute not deploying and the resulting possibility of injury or death. How about the danger of deploying the parachute before exiting the interior of the airplane?

Has the NHTSA, OSHA or electric vehicle manufacturers advertised the danger of charging an electric vehicle inside a structure or in direct sunlight? If you notice, whenever an electric vehicle is plugged-in for charging, it is outside of a structure. What is the potential for fire or explosion in a parking garage filled with charging electric vehicles? Note: there will be no charging ports on the upper deck as all the vehicles there will be in direct sunlight.

Ride on and accept that there is a greater danger of running into a tree or over turning the vehicle than having it ignite while refueling.
 

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If you touch the fuel tank with one hand while touching a metal part of the "pump" nozzle, it equalizes the electrical potential between the two and no spark or discharge will occur. If you fill using a portable plastic fuel container, no discharge will occur. NOTICE: it is also recommended that you touch the body of your car or truck before fueling to REDUCE the possibility of a static discharge from the pump nozzle to the vehicle. Also note; the vehicle is insulated from ground by the rubber of the tires. Chances of a static discharge from the pump nozzle or your body to a part of the vehicle is phenomenal unless you prepare and use care to cause it to happen. Just touching the vehicle while standing on the ground pretty much eliminates the possibility. If you insist on creating the possibility, cruise up to the fuel pump, do not dismount and use rubber gloves when removing the dispensing nozzle from the pump and the fuel tank cap. Now while sitting on the un-grounded vehicle, remove your rubber gloves and without touching any of the plastic components with your skin, hold the nozzle so it does not touch the fuel tank and start the fuel flowing. Now while the fuel is flowing and you are touching the metal part of the pump nozzle, move the metal part of the nozzle to the plastic part of the fuel tank. If done properly, you might cause a static discharge.

Also note: the STOP RIDE notice from Polaris indicates that "if fuel spills during refueling" it may ignite from static discharge. There is a greater chance of the fuel igniting while refueling without spilling if the engine is left running!

If the safetycrats had their way there would be a warning on parachutes on the danger of the parachute not deploying and the resulting possibility of injury or death. How about the danger of deploying the parachute before exiting the interior of the airplane?

Has the NHTSA, OSHA or electric vehicle manufacturers advertised the danger of charging an electric vehicle inside a structure or in direct sunlight? If you notice, whenever an electric vehicle is plugged-in for charging, it is outside of a structure. What is the potential for fire or explosion in a parking garage filled with charging electric vehicles? Note: there will be no charging ports on the upper deck as all the vehicles there will be in direct sunlight.

Ride on and accept that there is a greater danger of running into a tree or over turning the vehicle than having it ignite while refueling.
very well said my thoughts exactly
 

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Now don't blame me if you set your quad on fire - just make sure your insurance is in force so the replacement vehicle will be as painless as possible.
you are in the clear i will bring it in when they find their fix but i will not be worrying about it till them lol
 

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Used to have a Tacoma with cloth seats that would jump a spark and bite you on a regular basis when exiting or entering the vehicle. It was especially bad on dry winter days. I always tried to remember to grab something on the truck to ground myself before sticking the fuel nozzle in the tank just for my own peace of mind lol. It never did ignite but it sure made me aware of the possibility. 😁
 

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At the risk of sounding like I'm being a bitch (Don't give a S$%t if I am) - What would we all need to spend on Polaris equipment to NOT have risk of fire? We all know our machines are absurdly expensive as is - what's the premium on top of that needed to mitigate this crap? I don't have the exact stats, but there have been documented cases with the RZR, I have a 23' snow check sled on order that was part of that stop ride/stop sale for static discharge/fire...and now my 1000s they want me to stop riding? Honestly what do we need to all spend for them to hire the correct engineer to solve these issues PRIOR to going to market? I get that every manufacturer has teething to some degree...but do Honda/Yamaha have literal fire risk that result in a stop sale/ride bulletin - on repeat?

Can we just hire away their static guru and get this stuff solved in R&D before production?

It's legitimately ridiculous/insulting at this point....
 

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Sounds to me like another attempt to ban the use of petroleum powered vehicles. Just like the whole "cell phones will cause fires while fueling cars" bs, proven long ago to be false....

Not going to play this game with them.....
 
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I'd pay my own travel/accommodations to spend a day with polaris too brass and engineering just to ask direct questions and hear direct answers on WTF is going on. I cant stand the PC soft spun excuses.

So frustrating to get a shoulder shrug and "we're sorry"....so disingenuous.
 

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Its pretty simple really. The stop ride notice is corporate CYA liability protection. Somebody somewhere (probably in communist California) spilled gas all over their machine while fueling it up. Then, without letting it dry first, they hit the ignition switch sparking a fire. A multi-million-dollar lawsuit was filed blaming the owner's stupidity on Polaris. Polaris, at the direction of their legal department, then issued a stop ride/stop sale order so that when the next dumbazz does the same thing the company is protected. Owners of those machines have now been warned of the hazard of doing such an idiotic thing and can't blame Polaris if they ignore the warning.
Same reason your new ATV or new step ladder have idiot stickers plastered all over them telling you not to do stupid stuff. And this is why those items cost about 50% to 75% more than they should. Tide pods have a warning not to eat them and car batteries remind you not to drink the contents, etc. etc. and on and on...
 
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