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This is a little long winded but here is my predicament.
I WILL be upgrading the stock tire's on my 2010 sportsman 500 in the very near future (before summer hits).

The riding I do is very demanding, I do tend to run in low range a lot so i am hoping that I can put off a clutch kit until next winter. I would like to run a true 26" tire and avoid spacers, I am not opposed to flipping the T.R.E. but really cant find much on how wide before the T.R.E. flip just isnt enough. I just cant seem to fit in any genera of riding,We Kinda do it all. I ride several hundred acre's making my way around with very little to no trail. Often time's we are following new or 100+ year old logging trail sometime's It is just the bearing on a compass or just a gut feeling. We do run A lot of gravel trail, climb a lot of rocky terrain, often run through a lot of recent cutting's and over through and around brush. We need to get through and around a lot of mud as well. We don't fight atv ruts too often just heavy equipment ruts that swallow half the wheeler sideways while making through, I also use it for snow removal, general riding for hunting season and the occasional snow ride (where we attempt to go over the snow in late season not through). Overall A LOT of nasty terrain. I need a deep lug tire that is somewhat light (read stock 500ho), can manage hills in all directions (up,down, and side) ,wears good on and off trail, offers some flotation and is TOUGH. Everyone seems to lean too the zilla's but They did not hold up to what I put them through on my last quad. the carcass is just too thin and ended up plugging them a few time's. I do run slime in all of my tires, carry a small compressor and plug kit just to be on the safe side. I am trying to avoid running spacers to keep it as narrow as possible. I am going to all ready have to fight to fit where others can make it with no squeeze neccissary on there smaller atv's. radials are out of the question due to typical small lug height and really no concern on trail manners as long as they don't wear out tomorrow. This polaris all ready ride's like a caddy compared to everything.

Now that it is time to upgrade tires it seems like the more I read the more I change my mind. price is obviously a concern since I may end up needing to order a replacement or two. I have read read and read some more shopped and then read more just keeps making me change my mind. The guy I ride with primarly runs AMS swamp fox (not the plus) and he has yet to get a flat but they just do not perform. the zilla's would walk circles around them but they caused me a lot of repair time
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vampires (unsure on strength, actual tire nothing like advertised and goofy sizing)
swamp lite (true sizing wear fast thin sidewall)
executioner (too heavy)
mayhem (seems like a good contender but hear complaints of plugging up tread which is not a hug concern, Really unsure on strength)
CST ancla (too heavy)
STI outback and mud trax (Really like but don't like that they do run narrow, Unsure on strength)

opinions backed up with a reason highly appreciated.
 

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Welcome to the forum! Have you considered the Grim Reapers by GBC? Never mind because they are a radial.
 

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Monster Meyhem , deep lug mine clean out well , light by comparison to others with same tread depth do similar riding as you described and didn't put me into chapter 11
 

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sounds alot like the types of riding i do. i had a 01 sportsman 500 HO with 27" itp 589s and i ran everywhere and anywhere i pleased with them mud, hard pack, brush, and of course creating my own trails through heavily overgrown briar patches; knocked down a few smaller trees from time to time even. i also did a ton of riding them on the pavement unfortunately and over a couple of years it wore down the rear tread to about half. i ran slime in all 4 and only had to plug them 3 times over almost 5 years of hard riding. two in the rear left one in the rear right. not sure on weight and what your looking for but if they passed the test on me they might be worth looking into for you. wish you luck!
 

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Only way you are getting a really tough tire that won't wear fast is a radial. But that makes them heavier than bias ply. And the more plys the stronger and heavier.
 

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I have heard good things about the Pitbull Rockers...seen one review of 2500 miles, says they are the best. I havent bought a set yet, but pretty sure the Rockers will be my next set of skins.
 

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I had highlifter outlaw radials and loved them for an all terrain tire. They are a little on the heavy side and the smallest they come is in a 27'' but they mudded excellent, and the little rock climbing I did I was amazed. I think all the sipes helped in the rocks. I also liked the flat profile, it put a lot of the tire on the ground.
 

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I had allways wanted to run pitbull's when I was wheelin trucks but they allways seemed just too expensive given the price of the competition (and I was a die hard swamper fan) . Right now the mayhem's are at the top of my list. If I get stuck once in awhile it is expected i just dont like that I have been getting walked EVERYWHERE by a stock foreman 350 with standard 25" swamp fox's. I am not 100% sold on the fox's likely due to the lack of a deep lug on the standard fox's The only time I can even get a slight edge is when it comes to pure power to the ground even then he is almost allways capable of crawling the where he need to go might just have to take a different path. The extra ground clearance and front locker that I have has not yet seem to be any benifit Due to the junk tires.
 

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sounds alot like the types of riding i do. i had a 01 sportsman 500 HO with 27" itp 589s and i ran everywhere and anywhere i pleased with them mud, hard pack, brush, and of course creating my own trails through heavily overgrown briar patches; knocked down a few smaller trees from time to time even. i also did a ton of riding them on the pavement unfortunately and over a couple of years it wore down the rear tread to about half. i ran slime in all 4 and only had to plug them 3 times over almost 5 years of hard riding. two in the rear left one in the rear right. not sure on weight and what your looking for but if they passed the test on me they might be worth looking into for you. wish you luck!
We too run ITP 589's on our 09 Ranger XP, had them on our 04 Rhino and 02 Kodiak 400 before that. Incredible tire. Nearly indestructible and NEVER have gotten stuck with them. We don't do the crazy mud stuff but several times have run through some thick nasty stuff and they never miss a beat.
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Tough = Radials. Bias ply tires just won't hold up the same as a radial.

For you to run the type of aggressive tire you want, you'll definitely need a clutch kit. You will also probably either need spacers or replacement wheels with a better offset.

I ride pretty similar terrain to what you're running up in the UP... I've settled on either the GBC Grim Reaper (mentioned above) or the GBC Spartacus to replace my stock tires, along with a QSC clutch kit.

If you want to do it right, it's going to take some cash. That's why a lot of us are still running stock clutches, tires, and wheels. Saving up to do it right the first time. From everything I've heard and read from the other members here; if you do it the proper way from the get-go, you'll be very happy with your machine. If you try to cut corners, you're cutting out capability and reliability. No 2 ways about it.
 

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Bottom line Is I build in steps, I don't cut corners. I will not be able to do it all at once. I will suffer with lack of power for a couple extra weeks until the money comes in for a clutch kit then keep building from there. Many people are running 27's with no clutch kit without issue. i'm sure 26's will be o.k., I allready feel a need for more power on stockers. I am also preparing to upgrade the front diff since I'm sure the sprague will be short lived for the riding I do.

My last love, my last build, Since she sold I will now be investing the money that I was using for the truck into the fourwheeler.
 

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I run the mud trax and they are very tough. Run a hair short but not skinny. They have done everything you have listed. Only thing to stop them is peanut butter mud.
 

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I'm running 12" STI HD3 wrapped in 27" ITP mud lite XTRs on my 13' sportsman 400. Absolutely love the tire. I ride back in state land under power lines and swamp forest trails with DEEP peanut butter, slick, nasty mud. There's old logging mats in the trails we ride on and large ruts from the trucks that occasionally ride back there. From personal experience the XTRs hold up against anything you throw at them. I've ridden in busco beach clay-mud, soft sand on the beach, snow, rocky/gravel trails with no issues. Highly recommend them. They're radials too so they ride very nice on hard pack and rocky trails. Tough and durable as well. My stock 400 has no issues turning them over either. No clutch strain, belt slippage/burn, ect.


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Check out sedona ripsaw xc. Radial with 1.25 inch tread at a reasonable price.
 

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Sti gorilla x lite very impressed with the set I bought
 

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How about the Polaris PXT tires? They are light and cheap. I have used them and the Carlisle A.C.T. on a few machines over the years and they work well. Not too heavy and go great in all conditions. There are always some for sale on Craig's List or on forums. The tread is 3/4 inch. The Carlisle tire comes stock on Outlander XTs and people sell them right away for a bigger and heavier tire. The Outlanders can turn a much heavier tire without a clutch kit. They run a true 26" tall. The PXTs came 11 wide in the back and 8 in the front. The Outlanders get 8 wide in front but 10 in back. I ran 7 psi and never had any punctures. I didn't abuse them but rode over some sharp rocky terrain. Another inexpensive alternative is the Sure Grip Super Light tire. It is a Mud Lite copy that has a better rim guard and has a little cheaper price. They were great on a sport quad my son had a while ago. Just food for thought. I have seen many tires that were expensive get punctured and need plugs. Almost any tire can get a flat over the right conditions. Let us know what you get for tires and how you like them.
 

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I came across a deal too good to pass up on a set of 26" STI outback xt's. 9 wide front and 11 wide rear. Have not ordered any spacers yet as some say they are needed some say nay. Also some reports that they run slightly narrow so they just might fit without if all works out well.

Should be here in 3 days. will post up a review as soon as they get some miles on them. With any luck there might still be some traces of snow to test them out in as well so in The matter of a few days I should be able to test Their performance in several different terrains.
 
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