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have you heard what the rebates are for the touring and X2 models. polaris's website just mentions up to 1000 in rebates. just wondering what an X2 or touring model could be out the door.
 

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2010 single cylinder (500 or 550) model X2 and touring have a $250 rebate and the 2007-2009 models have a $500 rebate.

2010 twin cylinder (800 or 850) model X2 and touring have a $250 rebate and the 2007-2009 models have a $800 rebate

those offers are good through feb. 28, 2010. what model are you looking at. i did sales for 2 years so i know all the in and outs, fees, that type of stuff. i would be happy to help you work angles and not get screwed by "salesperson" talk if you are looking at buying a new machine
 

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i'm looking at a 2010 550 X2. i really wish they made an 850 X2 with power steering.
 

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so its got a $250 rebate....i hear ya on the power steering. wouldnt be too surprised if that comes out for 2011, but we wont know officially until this august
 

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what is a fair price for an 2010 X2 or a 550 touring and 850 touring?
 

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in mo i don't have to pay sales tax or license fees at the dealer. i'm more worried about the atv price than sales tax or anything like that.
 

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okay, give me a sec here and ill do a write up and brakedown. what to watch out for, what is pretty fair, ect....any accessories you might add before it leaves the shop?
 

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if i buy an X2 probably just a set of wheels. i have been buying warranties and service contracts on the last 2 i've bought. i probably would buy those too. i have a winch and brush guard that will go along with it. if i buy a touring maybe a lock n ride storage box.
 

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there are a couple of things i dont know that might play some small part of the price.

1) if the sales volume is down, they might make a better deal
2) how long as the machine been at the shop (flooring fees)
3) strength of the local economy

ok so first off, a dealer has to pay flooring fees to polaris just like car lots do. in case you dont know, most dealers buy their machines on credit with polaris. when a machine arrives, they usually get 30 days with no flooring fees, after then, every month someone from polaris comes thru and records every unit in inventory for a monthly flooring bill. it is basically an interest rate charge. the dealer pays flooring cost until they pay polaris for the unit, either out of pocket or from payment for selling the machine. dealers who have had units around for months are more likely to cut them loose for less then units that just arrived 2 weeks ago.

so, MSRP on the 2010 550 X2 is $8,079
rebate from polaris is $250.
dealer should be able to at least match that....another $250
DO NOT pay freight and set-up fees!!!

yes, the dealer does get charged for freight and set-up fees from polaris. i cannot say how much, it is confidental, but i can say it is in the neighboorhood of a couple hundred dollars. there is still enough room in profit the dealer doesnt loose money. plus set-up takes about 30 mins tops from create to trailer. most dealers will try to make money here, refuse to pay it! we never ever charge fright and set-up fees at our shop, so it does happen.

$250 off from the dealer i feel is a very safe number. i wouldnt be surprised if they go even more. i would settle for anything less then $250 from them, but i would push for $500 off or so.
profit for the dealer is not great, not like selling cars anyway. again, i cant say what it is exactly, but after the dealer pays the fright and set up fees to polaris, it is less then $1,000 profit if they take no additonal money off.

so on just the machine...
$8,999 (MSRP)
- $250 (Polaris Rebate)
- $250 (Dealer Discount)
= $8,499
i wouldnt pay any more then this. this still leave the dealer with a $700 profit or so.

2010 550 touring with EPS
$9,299
- $250 (Polaris Rebate)
- $250 (Dealer Discount)
=$8,799

on any accessories you get from them, i would expect at least 10% any and all purchased at the time of the sale, but wouldnt expect more then 30% off. dealer profit on accessories is only about 35% or so.

on any labor to install accessories, depending on what it was you were getting, simple stuff like rack ext., hard storage box, winch, ect....i would expect installed free. if you get a lot of accesoriess (30min or more install time), then i would expect 30%-50% off labor. if the mechanic is commission, usually the mechanic makes 50% of the hourly shop rate, so mechanic gets money for the install, and you get a nice discount.

any questions or clarifications let me know!
hope this helps!
 

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man you are very knowledgeable. i thought msrp was 8999 on the X2 and 9299 on the 550 touring? or at least thats what polaris has on their web site.
 

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whoops, that was the invoice price there. but i didnt tell you that...your right, MSRP is 8999 and 9299. im gonna go back and edit that just to be safe, my mistake! that is how much the dealer must pay polaris to get that unit on the showroom floor, so there, now you know

8999
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8499

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9299
-500
8799

so 8499 and 8799 would be my bare minium retail price. dont be afraid to walk out, compare with prices of other resonably close dealers and get them into a bidding war with each other. and get all their offers on paper, so when its time to buy they cant try to back out on it.
 

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basically right now i'm in a little quandary. in august i bought a 2009 550 Xp with EPS. I wanted at the time a 2up machine. My dealer had no X2's or touring 09's or 10's. in missouri the 2up machines are not popular and are hard to find. an X2 is easier to find, but not as common. so i test drove the 550 with eps and loved it. my mistake was not waiting until they could get a 2010 X2, which at the time they told me could have been as late as november or december. so i bought the 550 thinking i would buy my wife another 550 or an 850 and she could drive my 550 and i'd take over the 850. well, my wife would rather ride behind me than drive on her own. most states will not let you drive 2up on a 1 person machine, which i understand, its not as safe. so thats what led me to buying the X2 now. i own the 550 free and clear, but i know if i trade i will take a beating and right now no one so far can come up with the cash to buy it.
 

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i gottcha.... 2-ups werent very popular in our area of washington either. dunno if you have even got a trade in quote yet but i would expect a fair trade-in price would be in the low 5's because average resell value according to NADA is about 5,900
 

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yep thats about what they told me on trade. the dealer told that they have a hard time selling used machines because financing on used atv's is horrible.

thanks for all your info. you've been a big help.
 

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hey no problem. good luck there, hope it works out for ya. ill be around if got any other questions later down the road on this
 

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ok, last question. i have the 550 listed on craigslist and this site. is 6200 to high or a good deal? the 550 has 516 miles on it, and is in excellant shape. of course its used and does have some very minor scratches from riding trails. outside of that, it does have a rear brush guard and lock n ride backrest and rack extenders that will go with it. i've looked and you can buy a brand new 09 without power steering for 6499 around here. but since mine had the power steering and extras, i thought the price was good.
 

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i think that is a reasonably fair price. especially with the EPS, they tend to be fewer and far between then the non-EPS. if you have extended warranties on that machine through polaris, those should transfer to the new owner as well. i would leave it there, see if you get any bites. but it is fair IMO
 

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I have seen some dealers, that price there machines very low. Pretty much at invoice from what other dealers have told me. How does that work, are the high volume dealers living on a back end tier structure of some sort. I typically get around a 1000-1100 off list. The 2010 XP EPS I just purchased a couple weeks ago listed for 9999, my OTD price was 9000.00. Had I wanted to drive a little ways (2 hours) I could have bought one just like it for 8800.00, that was at the same dealer where I bought my 09 model 850 XP EPS for 8700.00 a year ago. The local dealer kept saying how that was below cost after shipping. Maybe so, but the other dealer sells them at those prices everyday, they are listed on there website, no BS charges, they do have 12.00 title work fee that is suposedly paid to the state.

So I guess my question is how does that work for the high volume dealer (selling at invoice) ? This dealer has been selling there machines in this mannor for 20 years or more, So they have not gone broke yet. I have bought 8 from them in the past 10 years. I was thinking there either was a volume tier structure that gave them a lower cost then other dealers on there machines do to there volume, or there has to be some sort sales number tier system generating Kickbacks from Polaris. You just can not stay in business, for that long selling everything at or very near invoice, unless there is some kind of backend money.
 
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