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Very odd problem, please help.

9.1K views 19 replies 8 participants last post by  Rextrax  
#1 ·
I just rebuilt the carb and it was running fine. on day 2 it ran great for 20 minutes and died. now its hard to start but it will run for about 5 minutes and die. It acts like its out of gas or a fuel line is kinked but the tank is full, gas is getting to the carb, i see gas in the bowl. Has spark.

It will start and drive around absolutely fine for about 5 minutes and then it just dies and no amount of throttle can save it. Seems like something gets hot and then sticks and starves it of gas.

Any help is appreciated.
 
#2 ·
Pinched fuel tank vent line? As a test, try loosening the fuel cap a little and ride it.
 
#7 ·
My brother in law said it may be the ignition coil overheating and malfunctioning causing bad spark. Then when it cools off it will work again until it gets hot it again. he told me how to test it, but for some unexplained reason i can't replicate the problem now and it ran all evening just fine. Gonna ride again in the morning and see how it does.

I hate gremlins.
 
#9 ·
well damn. I ordered a new coil. installed it and rode for an hour or so. figured i fixed it. then after a rest got back on it and it rode for 10 min and died. new coil, same problem. I don't think its a spark problem anymore. It still seems like something gets hot and causes it to die. Is there any use in trying a new fuel pump?

Any other ideas?
 
#13 ·
Sounds like a fuel supply problem. I had similar with my 325, but it ran fine until the fuel in the tank was down to 1/2 or less. Fuel pump was the problem. You can take the line that runs to the carb off at the shut off. put on a length of tubing or fuel line and run it into a container. with the engine off and the fuel turned on, you should get a trickle of fuel, when you crank the engine or its running, the fuel flow should increase. If it doesn't, then you have a problem with the vacuum line or the fuel pump. These are vacuum diaphragm pumps and the smallest leak in the diaphragm will cause failure.

When I started diagnosing my issue, I found that the fuel shut off is just a small distance above the bottom of the tank. With a full tank, there was enough pressure from the liquid in the tank to keep the carb supplied. When the fuel level dropped, it was starving the engine. Let it sit and the trickle was enough to get it to run again for a short time.

Vacuum line on the 325 runs from the fuel pump to the top of the engine. I would have to guess the 425 will be similar.

Good luck with it!
 
#16 ·
When I rebuilt the carb last week I put a new inline fuel filter on and it was different than the old one. It's metal and about 3x longer. also u can't see through it from end to end like the old one so it must flow differently internally. Not sure if that's the issue but we noticed it runs good if you just drive around for about 15-20min, but if you are going fast and hotdogging it will beginning hick-ups and then stall out when you slow down. Also it seemed like at night in the cold it didn't happen. I swapped the new filter with the old one and it did fine yesterday but it was really cold here. I will continue "testing" it all weekend.

I don't know anything about cams but it seems like if that was bad it would run crappy all the time right?
 
#20 ·
It's seems like we've fixed the problem by simply lowering the float level. Which I thought was weird, but now she purrs all day.

I had set it to be parallel to the bottom of the bowl like i read somewhere but turns out it needs to hang a little lower apparently. Oh well rookie mistake I guess.