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I have two 2008 Grizzly 700s with ESP and about 4000 miles trouble free. I bought a 2009 Polaris 850 XP ESP just to see what they were like. I know some hate them and some love them and I don't care I'm just sharing my thoughts on how I see them and how I think they compare.

SEAT: The XP 850s seat is 90% as plush as the Grizzly seat and they say that it's very narrow but it's not much different from the Grizzly 700 seat and both there very comfortable but I would say that the Grizzly is better. Winner: Grizzly 700

BRAKES: If your a novice then you would probably like the XP 850 brakes better. But if you've rode motorcycles and know how to use your brakes there's nothing like being able to control you bike the way you want to. As far as stopping power goes they're both very strong and I would think the Grizzly 700 would have a shorter stopping distance from 50 mph because of it's lighter weight. I like the Grizzly 700s way of doing things and I think most that know how to ride would agree. Winner Grizzly 700 (they did it right)

EBS: The XP 850 has great EBS. When they say you can get off and walk next to it going down hill they're right. I went down a 35 degree hill about 150 feet long without brakes only EBS engaged at about 3 mph. Same hill on the Grizzly 700 low gear no brakes was about 10 mph and both were in four wheel drive. Does that make the XP 850 better? I don't think so unless you don't know how to use your brakes. Same hill on the Grizzly 700 with just a little front brake applied and you can go any speed you want. I bet if the EBS on the XP 850 goes out you'll wish you never had it when you get the repair bill. Like they say......KISS..... (keep it simple stupid) should apply here and it does for the Grizzly 700. Once again the EBS on the XP 850 is great till it breaks down. Based on it's simplistic system I would give the edge to the Grizzly 700. Winner: Grizzly 700

4X4 system: If you have never had a 4X4 truck before you will probably think the Polaris is best because you don't need too know anything about pushing the 4X4 buttons on the Yamaha on the other hand if you know how too use the buttons on the Yamaha you already know it's a better system. One example is going down hill slow off camber trying to turn sharp to left or right. The front end will push straight down the hill because the 4X4 will not engage because the rear tires have to be spinning to make the 4X4 engage. So like most of us know the Yamaha has the best 4X4 system compared to Polaris. Winner: Grizzly 700

HEAD LIGHTS: Polaris hands down has the best head lights with three 50 watt lights and all three will stay on at the same time. Winner: Polaris XP 850

FOOT WELLS: There both plastic but at least Yamaha has a steel cleat you can put your foot on. Winner; Grizzly 700

POWER: The Grizzly 700 is very snappy of the bottom and feels faster to me and it is to about 50 mph. The XP 850 feels very lethargic off idle but at about 30 mph really starts to come on. My Grizzly 700 will go 65 mph and the XP 850 will do 70 mph. I have only raced them to 50 mph so I don't know if the XP is that much faster to 100 yards or not. Based on 70 mph by the XP 850 you would think it would be the winner but in real world riding on the trail 70 mph means very little. They both have great power on the trail. Winner: TIE

MOTOR/VIBRATION/SMOOTHNESS: Nothing really needs to be debated here the XP 850 is hands down the smoothest quad I have ever been on. Winner: XP 850

RIDE QUALITY: Both ride very well at trail speeds but I have to give the edge to the XP 850. At higher speeds the Grizzly is better. Winner: TIE

GAS TANK FILLER: The XP 850 is easy to get to but if you over fill it the gas runs down your automotive painted finish fenders. We all know how much better the Grizzlys tank is with it's automotive type click when tight cap and if you do over fill on the Grizzly 700 it runs down the over flow tube to the ground.. I won't talk about the poor vent system on the 700s gas tank. Winner: Grizzly 700

MILAGE: Grizzly gets about 18-22mpg every tank. XP850 has got 14mpg on my first 3 tanks. Winner: Grizzly 700

GROUND CLEARANCE: They both have very good ground clearance but I like the Grizzly's radius a-arms better, but I don't think it makes much difference on the trail. Winner: TIE

GEAR SHIFTER: The Grizzly 700s shifter is ok and the XP 850 is ok also which to me means they both suck!! But on the XP 850 when going down hill and you slide forward a little bit on the seat you will hit your knee on the shifter ouch!! Winner: Grizzly 700

DRIVE BELT SYSTEM: With the XP 850s 5000 mile belt one would think it would be pretty close but we all know that it is just Polaris propaganda. Some have many failures and some get many miles. I only have 15 hours on mine so far with no problems. If you could get 1500 miles out of the XP 850 I would say you were doing good and if you got 3000 miles out of your Grizzly I would think that it would be nothing to brag about tell me when you have 6000 miles on it and I'll remind you to start to carry a spare just in case. Winner: Grizzly 700

ESP: Grizzly 700 has great ESP as everyone that has one knows but the XP 850 has even better ESP. It steers so much easier at slow speeds, with even less kick back at the handlebars than the Grizzly 700. Winner: XP 850

EXHAUST SOUND: You can tell when the Grizzly's motor is running, but it sounds like a dog and cat fighting. On the other hand, when the XP 850 is running it sounds more like Taylor Swift (SWEEEEET!!!) The hands down Winner: XP 850

HITCH: The XP 850s 1 1/4 receiver is Mickey Mouse And the Grizzlys is also stupid. Why can't they just put a 2" receiver hitch on them? Winner: TIE

PAINT: I guess this only holds true for the XP 850 but the paint looks better on my wife's 1986 Yugo and it still has the original paint. The only time I've seen that much orange peel before was when I was on a field trip to an orange juice factory in Florida. Winner: I don't think so!!!!

RACK SYSTEN: The racks on the Grizzly 700 is nice and fairly strong and to mount the factory box on it it has to be removed which is ok but it takes 10-15 minutes to remove the rack and install the factory box. On the XP 850 they have flat plastic trays to mount there lock and ride system to which I like and it's very easy and quick to install and remove your box. For convenience I like the XP 850 system better. I don't think one is better that the other just more convenient. Winner: TIE

STORAGE: I like Grizzlys front fender storage it's very handy and easy to reach. The XP 850 has it's storage in the rear between the exhaust pipes and right above the muffler it's not handy at all, but it does double as an easy bake oven. We put our hot dogs in there on long rides and by lunch time there ready to eat, what more could you ask for. Yea that's a joke but it does get very hot in there. Winner: Grizzly 700

WHEELS: The 14" on the XP 850 work great as do the 12" on the Grizzly 700. But when it comes to finding tires at a good price I think the 12" would be a better choice. Winner: Grizzly 700

DIGITAL DASH: The only thing better about the XP 850s dash is the tach otherwise it's a lot harder to read than the one on the Grizzly 700. Winner: Grizzly700

WEIGHT: Yea, the XP 850 is about 180# more than the Grizzly 700 but on the trails where we ride most is only slightly noticeable. My wife thinks it's more stable feeling to her and I thing most people with novice skills would think the same. The only time I think it feels heavier is when you punch it around a corner to try to pitch it side ways and slide around the corner. It's harder to do because of it's slow throttle response. The Grizzly slides much easier. So if you like to race then the Grizzly 700 will feel much better, but if you like to ride trails at a fast pace you will not notice much difference because of the extra weight. Winner: TIE

JUMPING: I didn't buy a utility quad to jump, but catching a little air off water bars from time to time can be fun. Back to the extra weight thing, I do notice the extra weight of the XP 850 when jumping. Winner: Grizzly 700

EDIT: I'll reserve the right to edit as I get more ride time on the XP 850 and this is only my opinion after only riding the XP 850 for 15 hours, but as I ride I'm always comparing it to the Grizzly 700. I will also add more as they come to mind.



PISSING MATCH: I don't care if you don't like Polaris or not or what you have seen or heard about the XP 850. This is only my feelings about my new ride. I am only trying to enlighten everyone.

PARTS THAT HAVE BROKE: I'll have to leave this blank, because nothing has yet but you'll be the first to know....TOM
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Hey terb thanks for the info I'm sure it can help lots of people who may be wondering which quad to buy.

I agree lets none of us get into a pissing match but if you don't mind I'd like to stick my two cents in for all it's worth. Now I'm sure I haven't ridden the 700 as much as you have but I have a friend who owns one and I ride it a bit.

Seat: I'm gonna have to disagree. I do believe the XP seat is a bit narrower and feels much plusher. It may all depend on a persons stature but for me it fits better. Winner: XP850

Brakes: I think for the most part I'll have to agree. I do like the fact you can control front and back independently on the 700 but actually because of it's larger wheels and weight my XP stops in nearly the exact same distance. But! Winner: 700

EBS: My rebuttle to your logic is if the XP is going to slow for you than just add a little gas. I'd rather have all the engine braking there and have to throttle than get it running away and trying to depend on brakes. But you're also probably right about the cost of replacement if it were to brake. But I think I'm willing to spend the extra money if it could possibly save my life. Winner: XP850

4X4: I also mostly agree. I like how you can pick how and when exactly 4 wheel drive is engaged on the 700, however I am very surprised with how excellent the On-Demand works for the 850. Even though it may not have a differential lock, I have never had a wheel quit spinning due to any restriction. Winner: Tie

Headlights: Completely agree. Winner: XP850

Footwells: I guess all I can say is does it really matter too much? All plastic works for me as it's thick and has an agressive tread and is all one piece. I'd say eventually the metal will rust. But either way not a factor for me at all. Winner: Tie

Power: Now I'll have to disagree I feel the XP850 is actually quite quick off the line and can get a pretty decent jump on the 700 and can pull away down the stretch (not by leaps and bounds but still does). However you are very right, who cares about all that speed on the trail!?! So I will agree with you on the result. Winner: Tie

Motor/Vibration/Smoothness: I'll also agree the XP850 by far is smooother and balanced. I only notice significant vibration when I first turn it on. Winner: XP850

Ride Quality: I also agree but I feel the XP excels both at high and low speeds. Winner: XP850

Gas Tank Filler: HAHAHA I'm not exactly sure why you have this as a comparison but ok. You're right the drain on the 700 is real nice but unlike most people (and I'm not saying you) I pay attention to what I'm doing so so far I haven't spilled any fuel on the paint job. Winner: Tie

Mileage: I believe you are right with this one. I was not impressed at all with the mileage originally but I think the engine is still being broken in because my XP is getting better. More than likely will not pass the 700 however and with the 700's bigger tank it's definitely the winner. Winner: 700

Ground Clearance: Yes both have excellent ground clearance, however the XP is more and with it being wider I think also helps. I'll also agree with the turning radius of the 700 being alot better than the XP850 but you shouldn't need that too much on the trails. Winner: Tie

Gear Shifter: Also not too much of an issue at all for me. The 700's looks cooler but I also prefer mine on the right side so I'm not holding the throttle but the brake. I also haven't run into mine at all so I don't feel it's in the way. Winner: Tie

Drive Belt System: I don't know too much about this but I have heard they both can last a long time. I feel it all depends on the rider and his riding style therefore can't compare but so much. Not knowing much about the 700 I heard the XP850's it pretty eeasy to change in the field if need be. Winner: Tie (based on lack of experiance)

ESP: I'll definitely agree the ESP does wonders for the XP 850 at high and low speeds. Winner: XP850

Exhaust Sound: Again I'll defnitely have to agree. The XP850 purs like a tiger and the 700 puts like a beat up car. However the XP can be a little loud at times and if used for hunting like I plan too may be a bit of a burden. Winner: XP850

Hitch: I love the idea of the 1 1/4" reciever. You can't carry the weight a 2" reciever can so what's the point? The reciever I feels gives more options that hole like the 700. Winner: XP850

Paint: I think it's all a matter of opinion here but I love the metalic flake in the XP's red but I really love my friend's special edition 700 with the red paint, black honeycomb and dark red flames. Doesn't really pop out at you but when stare it can really turn you on. So between just those two I'll have to say Winner: 700 (Special Edition Only!!!)

Rack System: Also agree with the simplicity and ease of the XP850 but hard to find other accessories for it except from the Polaris store. 700 has alot more choies as far as off brand stuff you can get and attached but again XP850 can be quite nice for ease. Winner: Tie

Storage: Also agree, 700's fender box and under the seat box is real nice and the XP850 rear box pretty much sucks. Winner: 700

Wheels: Again agree as far as ease of finding tires for the 700 but once you find ones for the 14" I'd rather keep my 14's. It'll just take a little time for manufacturers to start producing the 14" tires, in time they'll be readily available. Winner: Tie

Digital Dash: I personally have no trouble reading the XP850's at all and I believe with the bigger display it's actually easier. Plus it's closer to you and you're not having to look over the handlebars. Winner: XP850

Weight: I agree with pretty much everything you say except for the fact that I have absolutely no trouble getting that @$$ to slide around for me, as I still feel the throttle response is quite impressive for a PVT. I believe the more stable feel comes from the width not the weight but I would like my XP850 to go on a little bit of a diet. But as you said riding the trails, it won't make much difference to you one way or the other. Winner: Tie

Jumping: I also agree to the fact I didn't buy it to jump, but they both have their cons. The 700 is lighter so slightly easier, however the XP850's quick snap can get some nice lift as well. (And yeah I know I said I didn't buy it to jump but jumping around a motocross track can be kind of addictive) Winner: Tie



I may edit this as I go on but I kind of doubt it. As far as your grammar goes I had absolutely no problem reading it. Haha, nice job.

Again I will also state there should be no pissing match or arguments over this as I'm sure someone will probably take offense to some of our comments. If you do, you may want to get help becase you won't make it far in life. lol. I'm also just stating my feelings and opinions between the comparison of these two fine machines. Everyone's different; rides different, thinks different, feels different things so it's all a matter of opinion.

Thanks again terb for your insight and willingness to compare and share. We look forward to updates and other comparisons.
 

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This is not really a fair comparison as the 850 is not even broken in yet. Usually takes 300 to 400 miles before the motor and suspension is broken in. But I do like what you did it was very informational.
 

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I always wondered what the actual numbers were but I have noticed things starting to settle in on my XP, and fuel mileage increasing. Thanks for the FYI Dale.
 

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I'll get more miles this week so maybe I'll know more.
 

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I am not sure on that power comparison, when I first got my 09'. A couple buddies and I all got together for a comprison shootout. The grizz was getting half tracked at 3 hundred feet. Even the DW article in this months issue that did a comparison of The Grizz/KQ/Sp850/Outy800 all with EPS said the grizz was the slowest of all with Outy the fastest followed by the Sp850 then the KQ, then the Grizz. This was exactly the way they came in for our test as well, except DW failed to mention how much slower the grizz was. In our test it was a lot slower, not really in the same leauge in the power deparment.


This is a piped brute with a CDI and other mods. It was neck and neck with my 850 when the 850 had maybe 10 miles on it. This pic is at about 200-250 foot into a 300 foot run.



I bought a 09 KQ with EPS and it is a very simlar machine to the Grizz, and the EPS on the polaris puts the KQ and Grizz EPS to shame, the effort and the dampening effects are drasticly better on the Polaris, as well as the speed sensativity. The KQ and Grizz both seem a little twitchy at speed. the Polaris seems very solid at high speeds (45-70mph).



The Handeling thing is one that gets me to, DW said the grizz handeled well, I guess I did not see it with the 660 I had or my buddies 700EPS model, seemed like they were both tippy feeling, my buddy thought so too and had added aftermarket rims, and wheel spacers to his, along with aftermarket shocks as well. His was much better then my old 660, but still not near as stable as the Sp850 or a prarrie 650-700, or a Outlander 400-800.


I don't know, I guess to each there own. I am sure everyone has there prefferences.



Me, I just got rid of my 750 KQ and replaced it with another Sp850EPS. I have owned about every top model out there and have found nothing that really compares to the Sp850EPS. At least not for me anyway.
 

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to each their own is right cc1999! there is a lot of biased opinions in terbs write up, none of which holds any sort of credit. it is simply one mans personal opinion. no offence to you terb, if you like the grizz then ride it. i have ridden the 700 grizz with EPS, and i didnt like it.

this write up is like watching the promotional videos that these manufactures make....ppffff, NEXT!
 
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