The Brutes are real torqy but my old 800 would keep up with them, I also think they have the lowest water table, meaning will not take a lot to swamp them, and my buddy swamped his on his second ride (he took it through a puddle I just went through by the way, but he got stuck (that crappy 3 wheel drive got him)). He had bought it from another one of our buddies who babied it so it was taken care of the first 4 years. I think new they are more than an 850, I was at the dealer and the sticker on the new Brutes was like 10K and the Popo's are 9k (both with EPS) so if your seeing used ones where the Popos are more, that should tell you which one will hold its value better! Also when I rode his brute it felt like you sat fairly high, meaning it had that tippy feeling. Just my opinions.. Good luck, and just to note: at the end of the day I am sure you will be happy with either!